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Update the Reveal Hidden Elements Feature

Update the Reveal Hidden Elements Feature

To me, reveal hidden elements does not really reveal hidden elements. Sure, it reveals elements that were turned of categorically and individually, but what about those that were turned off via Workset or Filter or by other means? Reveal Hidden Elements does not do that.

 

In addition to the following requests on this forum:

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reveal-overridden-elements/idi-p/6364095

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/visually-differentiate-manually-hidden-elements-from-hidd...

 

I think Reveal Hidden Elements needs to go further. Perhaps something similar to the Worksharing Display where it color codes elements that are hidden by category, individually, workset, filter, etc. 

 

Feel free to add to this if you like

2 Comments
jkidder
Collaborator

I'd like to see a method (perhaps a pop up selection dialog like the detail level and graphic display option buttons) that would allow the different methods of hidden item to be checked/unchecked.

 

In view is most important to me.  Usually I know what I've hidden by filters and categories, its those rouge items hidden in the view I need to find.  All the other items just clutter the hidden items view.  

 

hidden imported items should be a different option than items hidden by category because right now it includes cad layers that have been turned off.

 

Worksets will depend on programing - they might be able to be identified as long as the workset is loaded, but couldn't be if the workset is unloaded.

Ric_Weber
Advisor

Color coding would be good for all the different ways something can be hidden...  but in addition to that or even more importantly would be a Filter system of those hidden items you've revealed with the Reveal Hidden Elements tool. 

 

As @jkidder said, currently we select Reveal Hidden Elements and it shows (nearly) everything that is hidden in a multitude of ways.  If I have items temporarily hidden those appear in blue, other items hidden regardless of method are in pink.  If there have been a lot of things hidden in various ways, all of those items make it nearly impossible to find what you are looking for.  

 

Recommended workflow: Select Reveal Hidden Elements, each of the different methods of hiding an element are color coded, a Filter list appears (default to last used) where we can choose from the following list of hiding methods we want shown (one, several, or all).  The list would separate items by the method used to hide: 

 

Element  https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/visually-differentiate-manually-hidden-elements-from-hidd...

Model Category

Annotation Category

Analytical Model Category

Imported Category

View Filter https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reveal-hidden-elements-shows-objects-hidden-by-a-filter-i...

Workset

Link (entire link turned off)

Category by Link  https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reveal-hidden-elements-without-links/idi-p/13342181

Temporary https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/quot-reveal-element-s-quot-in-temporary-hide-isolate-tool...

Revision Cloud/Tags(based on the Sheet Issues/Revisions dialog)  https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reveal-hidden-elements-should-include/idi-p/13823590

Detail Level https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reveal-hidden-elements-regardless-of-detail-level/idi-p/7...

 

In general this would solve these ideas as well I believe: 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/change-the-way-reveal-hidden-displays-horizontal-elements...

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reveal-hidden-amp-visibility/idi-p/8346144

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/only-show-hidden-elements-in-reveal-hidden-elements-mode/...

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/hidden-element-navigator/idi-p/8298399

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/quick-way-to-find-out-why-an-element-is-hidden/idi-p/7808...

 

Since the elements hidden by Element are the most pertinent to find, in addition to the above, a number on the lightbulb icon (perhaps the number is enlarged on mouse over?) that reflects the number of items hidden by Element.  This would solve these ideas: 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/hidden-elements-in-this-view-icon/idi-p/13079617

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/put-number-next-to-view-tab-title-showing-number-of-eleme...

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