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Quick way to find out why an element is hidden

Quick way to find out why an element is hidden

I spend more time than I like on trying to unhide elements on views. There is a lot of ways to hide something.

When "Reveal hidden elements" is clicked it would be very helpful if there was a right click command that lists the reasons that the element is not visible. I.e. Workset hidden, wrong phase, category hidden etc... It would save a lot of guesswork.  

5 Comments
d-denton
Contributor

our less seasoned users struggle in a dense model, even using 'reveal hidden elements' can make finding a specific object difficult. along with your suggestion, it would be great if we could select the desired object(s) in a view where they are visible, then from the view where they aren't, display the same helpful info you suggest. 

Anonymous
Not applicable

YES! I literally said this to a colleague two days ago, after spending an hour trying to unhide something. I ended up creating a new view with the exact same settings, which did the trick (I'll never understand why).

 

It gets tiring working through the "33 reasons why things don't show up"

nmarcelis
Advisor

@AnonymousMastering the revit visibily controls is the most difficult concepts to grasp for a beginner or intermediate user.

BBBerryWDS9S
Explorer

It's insane how simple and useful this could be, but Autodesk will never implement it. If Revit is going to be subscription based, it needs to receive meaningful updates. Especially with how expensive it is to use in the first place

Ric_Weber
Advisor

Color coding would be good for all the different ways something can be hidden...  but in addition to that or even more importantly would be a Filter system of those hidden items you've revealed with the Reveal Hidden Elements tool. 

 

Currently we select Reveal Hidden Elements and it shows (nearly) everything that is hidden in a multitude of ways.  If I have items temporarily hidden those appear in blue, other items hidden regardless of method are in pink.  If there have been a lot of things hidden in various ways, all of those items make it nearly impossible to find what you are looking for.  

 

Recommended workflow: Select Reveal Hidden Elements, each of the different methods of hiding an element are color coded, a Filter list appears (default to last used) where we can choose from the following list of hiding methods we want shown (one, several, or all).  The list would separate items by the method used to hide: 

 

Element  https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/visually-differentiate-manually-hidden-elements-from-hidd...

Model Category

Annotation Category

Analytical Model Category

Imported Category

View Filter https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reveal-hidden-elements-shows-objects-hidden-by-a-filter-i...

Workset

Link (entire link turned off)

Category by Link  https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reveal-hidden-elements-without-links/idi-p/13342181

Temporary https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/quot-reveal-element-s-quot-in-temporary-hide-isolate-tool...

Revision Cloud/Tags(based on the Sheet Issues/Revisions dialog)  https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reveal-hidden-elements-should-include/idi-p/13823590

Detail Level https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reveal-hidden-elements-regardless-of-detail-level/idi-p/7...

 

In general this would solve these ideas as well I believe: 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/change-the-way-reveal-hidden-displays-horizontal-elements...

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reveal-hidden-amp-visibility/idi-p/8346144

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/only-show-hidden-elements-in-reveal-hidden-elements-mode/...

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/hidden-element-navigator/idi-p/8298399

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/quick-way-to-find-out-why-an-element-is-hidden/idi-p/7808...

 

Since the elements hidden by Element are the most pertinent to find, in addition to the above, a number on the lightbulb icon (perhaps the number is enlarged on mouse over?) that reflects the number of items hidden by Element.  This would solve these ideas: 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/hidden-elements-in-this-view-icon/idi-p/13079617

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/put-number-next-to-view-tab-title-showing-number-of-eleme...

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