Masking for Sections and Callouts

[bosborne]

See links below - it's Revit 2018 - Why are we all still having to hack section and callout heads to enable them to mask stuff behind by using underscore text to represent the middle line?  The root cause here seems to be that the ability to Send To Front/Back does not exist in these families (so the masking region always hides the middle line regardless of order of creation), and the Masking Regions insist on rotating with the section head (so using half-circle two masking regions won't work because the line tends to rotate instead of stay horizontal).

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/section-cut-bubble-masking-question/m-p/6794128...

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/masking-region-in-a-section-head/m-p/6817536...

Section Head-Filled.rfa

[Anonymous]

Can we please, please, please make it easier to mask the background behind a section callout head other than the ridiculous workaround people have managed to hack? It seems such a ridiculous problem to have to deal with given it is a standard feature in most other annotation families.

[jondan]

I have suggested instead of a global "mask" within the callout, that we have a separate (even if simplified) template (and/or visibility graphics/view range/scale, etc) that can control what we see within the callout box. After all, most every instance of a callout is because we show the detail later and more completely.

This would allow, for instance, to show room tags but not lights, plumbing fixtures but not piping...the list could be endless based on users' needs of what little detail they might want to show inside of a callout.

[honewell]

how is this still an issue that requires a work around? This should have been fixed long ago!

[Ric_Weber]

We are now even 5 years later and this still has not been fixed.  I'm not sure why this doesn't have more votes than this!  Please people, this would help sooooo much!!!

[tnievesP53K8]

This problem has existed in revit for 15+ years and been reported in the forums multiple times but get closed because someone comes up with a backwards solution or indicates it's not possible.

The intended functionality should be to

- Add a masking region or at minimum a nested family with a masking region to a section head and have any lines in the section head not be obstructed.

- be able to draw lines in the section head that will NOT rotate without having to copy lines from the default section.

head. 

The goal is to have a generic very standard section head with a line seperating the detail and sheet numbers, that does NOT rotate and has a masking region so when used in plans it can block out anything behind it.

The current solution using text underlines is NOT an acceptable solution...

[Mark_Engwirda]

@tnievesP53K8, I respect your experience with this issue.

The dividing line does rotate like you say, wouldn't selecting "rotate text with component"  solve the issue so that the text rotates with the line, or did you want to always keep the text horizontal?

 

[m_barnett]

@lim.wendy - this issue was originally posted in 2008. Still no solution?

[sam.loring]

It would be so nice if section/callout heads could have an opaque background so that you can actually read them without linework bleeding in from behind.  My hacks of trying to place a masking region in the family don't work as the detail/sheet dividing line will not rotate with the tag.

[Mike.FORM]

Agreed, but make sure you search for previous ideas before making new ones.

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/masking-for-sections-and-callouts/idi-p/7077408

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/callout-head-background-masking/idi-p/8250288

@handjonathan this can probably be combined.