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Better Functionality for Legends!!

Better Functionality for Legends!!

1.  Ability to Tag Legend Components

2.  Ability to rotate Legend Components

3.  Option for "Floor Plan View" for Floors, Ceilings, etc.

4. Ability to Override Graphics, apply Filters, etc to Legend Components

 

Work arounds for these issues are too many, and leave too much room for error.  A legend should be representative of the items in your model.  It should have as much functionality as your floor plans do because it is meant to be a visual guide of the items in said floor plan.  MUST HAVE FULL FUNCTIONALITY!

141 Comments
Anonymous
Not applicable
Joseph_Peel
Enthusiast

Solution: Dont use Legends, they suck in so many ways!

Use a schedule instead, reading the data from the existing families in the project is a much more 'BIM' solution, compared to 'drawing' a legend.

Add a Type Image to all your families. Add a consistent Description, Add a 'Show In Schedule' shared type parameter to give some control and then schedule them. Schedules can be copied to multiple sheets and automatically only show elements existing in the project.

blro.
Enthusiast

Also wonderful would be - 

allowing:

override host layers

linework tool

snapping

pieter7
Advisor

5. changing instance parameters of legend components

 

 

SamuelAB
Advocate

6. Ability to dimension legend components

Bob_Zurunkle
Advisor

Ability to add reference callouts to legends.

Radish_G
Collaborator

Yes, one of the improvements that everyone needs.

chris.cromer
Contributor

Yes, not being able to tag legend components is one of the biggest complaints I get from those in our office on a regular basis!

dennis_collin
Advocate

This must be on the Revit roadmap, yes, I know you can use Dynamo to provide workaround. But this function is overdue for improvement.

ivo_galantai
Enthusiast

Please Autodesk make some good development for legends - the Revit society needs this.

 

  1. Taggable Legends
  2. Changing host type for window door etc. components - We need to show different wins and doors in different host please allow to change thickness of walls and also the type of the wall
  3. Changing Detail Level - showing layer off the host (wall) it would be nice
  4. Dimensioning legends  - *We can crudely dimension limited elements in Legends, but we need full functionality. We need to be able to dimension wall thickness overall AND individual wall layers for instance.
  5. Remove View Direction Restrictions - *Why do some elements have restrictions on which View Direction is allowed. Ceilings are a classic example, which can’t be shown on plan, only in section. We need to show different ceiling tile sizes etc on plan!
  6. View Filters - *Why don’t Visibility/Graphic Override Filters work on Legends?!! When using legends as a key to a drawing that uses Filters, we have to manually make filled regions in matching colours!! Such a waste of time and effort.
  7. Flip/Rotate Legend Components - *We want to be able to show doors left or right handed, or rotated etc. Remove the restriction.
kgatzke
Collaborator

The section only legend components for floors and roofs are pretty useless, especially when trying to distinguish floors and roofs that only differ by a pattern on their top layer!  Since we can't have material legends as a view type (It's your workflow, not Revit that's the problem 🙄) the least we could do get a top down view on floor and roof types so we can make our own.

 

Thank you.

awasyliw
Advocate

I posted this previously... along with a few other suggestions to improve legends.
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/upgrade-legend-components/idi-p/8291452 

Would appreciate a vote back to keep this issue alive.

awasyliw
Advocate

By the way, as a workaround I created a generic 'material' family which is just a 50mm thick square, it can then have any material assigned to it and be dropped in to legends to take any material you want to show. I also made it adjustable in size so that it can cater to different legend scales

kgatzke
Collaborator

@awasyliw 

I did the exact same thing, creating a generic material family.  Unfortunately I could find no way to make the size of the component an instance parameter that works in a legend.  Type sizes only but at least now I have a way to create material legends.  I searched but didn't find your post but I've upvoted it.  Thanks

MikaLei
Enthusiast

Good points, legends should improved. It could be even better, that they really reflecting to model itself. I mean you could create eg. door legends automatically like some 3rd Party addins do. Now working with legends is more like working with pen and paper instead of BIM tools.

HE-MJJ
Advocate

Changing detail level after a family is already draged on to a Legend will not affect the existing family on the Legend.

ben.studiomod
Contributor

Legend need to have the same capabilities as the model, otherwise, what is the point.  If I manipulate the graphics of an element in the model, I need to be able to do that same manipulation in the legend.  

 

  • Allow us to rotate element in legend
  • Allow us to graphic override element in legend
  • Allow us to include annotations in legends 
  • Allow us to include the "face view" of a ceiling / wall / roof assemblies in a legend for material designation.  This is something that is scheduled in ALL projects and is a must.  Its pretty pathetic that after this long, we still have to resort to the workaround of modeling these elements in an unused phase that must be filtered out of all other views.
  • It would be great if there was a faster way of pulling objects off a plan and adding them to a legend than searching for each one individually in an ever expanding list of families.

 

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Anonymous
Not applicable

I find the lack of all of these things simply staggering. Revit is just one "workaround" after another. For a package at this price point, it is literally unbearable, and that fact they won't resolve these things until enough people "Vote" goes to show that they feel they have the market cornered without having to put any effort into the fundamentals. 

 

Each annual release is just sharpening the edge of a blade that's too crooked to use.  

Kev_D
Collaborator

Adding Assemblies to Legend Views would also be a good addition. For example, you can't add CW Doors to a Door Legend, so you have to make Assemblies of them. Adding them to an already created Door Legend would be great. 

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