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Text options for foreground and background transparency

Text options for foreground and background transparency

Currently, we only have two choices: fully opaque or fully transparent.

The fully transparent option makes the text impossible to read if there is a fill pattern behind the text and the opaque option just looks clumsy.      

 

I would like to see a third option where annotations such as text, tags, dimensions, etc. can mask the foreground of hatch patterns but not the background. 

 

 

Suggested Idea: foreground masking with background transparency!

Screenshot 2023-11-09 140207.jpg

 

Current Transparent Option, the foreground fill pattern clashes with the annotation.

Screenshot 2023-11-09 113228.jpg

There are previous ideas that try to problem solve this issue but in other ways.

(so please don't merge this idea into similar ideas and bury it into the ideas archives)

 

 

 

10 Comments
wr.marshall
Advisor

@Mark_Engwirda 

 

see this idea: multi-line text and text with background mask - Autodesk Community

 

though you mention not to combine, if you feel nearly the same as @kimberly_fuhrman-jones to combine. 

combining strengthens ideas along with comments where I may not have thought of something you did which would improve the tool.

Mike.FORM
Advisor

This would be an excellent addition for general aesthetics.

 

Mark_Engwirda
Collaborator

@Mike.FORM That is exactly how I did it and what I am suggesting.
This does not mean that the foreground masking will block out 3D objects; users will still need to place their annotations in strategic locations.

Mark_Engwirda
Collaborator

@wr.marshall  Thanks for commenting.
I prefer it not to be combined with this particular idea, at least not yet.
I feel it will get lost with a bunch of other ideas if combined, and it
will also remove its visibility from the most recent ideas feed.
In other words, it will get buried under an old post that nobody will ever
see unless they do a lot of digging.
See below for other ideas that are similar or that touch
on annotation transparency.
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/translucent-options/idi-p/7739990
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/translucent-model-text/idi-p/9598917
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/add-support-for-text-styles/idi-p/7267548

There was another idea that I found yesterday that was reasonably close and
it talked about translucency but it didn't explain it with real clarity or
show images of how it would work.
That idea was posted back in 2018/16 and I can no longer find it.
This is what I am talking about when good or similar ideas get combined and
buried into old posts which nobody can find anymore, unless by luck 🙂

Mike.FORM
Advisor

@Mark_Engwirda I updated my previous comment. I wasn't seeing your images at first.

 

Agreed, this should only be for the hatches themselves.

MichaelWolff
Advisor

When I had this issue, I steered around it by copying the annotation label and gave the copy the same font size but made it bold and gave it a very light almost white hue. After that it was just trial and error to have the right label on top of its white out stencil. Works best if the font has similar width in its normal and bold cuts.

20240109 082524-Autodesk Revit 2023.1 - [Projekt1 - Grundriss_ Ebene 1].png

Still this would be nice to have out of the box.

Mark_Engwirda
Collaborator

@MichaelWolff Thats sounds tricky if you were just trying to do basic text?

MichaelWolff
Advisor

@Mark_Engwirda tricky to say the least. I would not recommend it for say legends and go for a text next to the region. Sorry.

 

Mark_Engwirda
Collaborator

👍

ks2_wmb
Advocate

I usually do my solid fills as a separate region stacked beneath.  None of the hatches in my use case are a "background" pattern.

 

I would prefer a solution like "mask hatch patterns only" that can intelligently let through solid fills in regions, solid fills on modeled objects, and element colors from "consistent colors" views.

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