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Surface/Mesh Display Options - Toggle or Remove Faceting

Surface/Mesh Display Options - Toggle or Remove Faceting

The lack of visibility control over edges is an old annoyance

Autodesk solved this issue very elegantly in Formit

Proposal

Having an Edge Contrast slider for each Revit category that removes edges when 0 would be fantastic.

Just Like in Formit similar to the Transparency Slider

 

83 Comments

Hi @pieter7,

I'm keen to know more about the dxf work around. Do you have a link you could share? Thanks.

MichaelRuehr
Advocate

Hi matt

the original workaround is quite old from this Brasilian Gentlemen see below 

https://youtu.be/ZghL7hRM-gM

hsRASX8
Contributor

Summary: Let us control edge visibility og SketchUp files by turning of layers (subcategories), as it was before Revit 2021.

 

It seems that Revit no longer respects edge layers in SkechUp-files (as of Revit 2021). This used to be useful on previous versions of Revit to hide smooth edges. This was an imporant workaround, since Revit does not support SketchUp smooth edges. By putting the smooth edges on a separate layer in SketchUp, theese could then be hidden in Revit by turning of the layer. Now, in Revit 2021, this is no longer possible, since Revit moves SketchUp-edges to the same layer as the surface they define. I consider this a bug, since it makes it impossible to make SketchUp-links look great in Revit, and Revit is now less useful after this "upgrade".

 

 

mattfHS3XL
Explorer

Please un-archive this item - removal of projection lines would be super useful. It's weird that Revit doesn't have this ability. Removal of projection lines for hidden line (globally) would also be appreciated.

emodderman
Advocate

This has been archived because the function was introduced in 2021

hsRASX8
Contributor

Please un-archive this request, as the problem was not solved in Revit 2021. Rather, it was made worse by eliminating the possibility of a decent work-around, see my previous reply.

 

@emodderman, if this indeed was solved, please link to the help page that discribes how to hide Sketchup-triangles in Revit 2021, or how to control the graphical appearance of sketchup edges independent of faces.

 

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2021/ENU/?guid=GUID-989EE87F-31C2-49A0-8575-469C218E43CE

  • Visibility/graphics: In Revit, you cannot manipulate the geometry or isolate parts of whole elements with visibility/graphics settings.
  • Properties: The following Trimble® SketchUp® properties are currently not supported in Revit import: Texture Image Maps, “Smooth” Curved Surfaces, Text and Dimensions, Raster Images, and saved “Pages”.
emodderman
Advocate

https://formit.autodesk.com/blog/post/formit-2021-2-and-new-revit-add-in-now-available

 

Sorry, I realize now it was specifically for the FormIT importing of objects... 

derekstevens21
Explorer

This is an awesome idea! I've been trying to find a good workaround for ages! It would be amazing if this could be made into a legit function of revit.

rainer2
Advocate
As 75ironhead has written before: I fully support this feature request also. Revit's OOTB cars are pretty lame! Please take this out of the archive!
Anonymous
Not applicable
@Anonymous - please un-archive this. Currently ther is no good way to remove mesh edges
MiWolff
Advisor
I think this has returned from the archive vault now. It is now gathering support again.
Intuos5
Advisor

Currently, imported meshes display faceted due to the way Revit forces flat shading. Please allow smooth shading of meshes while respecting smoothing groups or edges marked as sharp from 3ds Max, Maya, Blender, etc. There should optionally be an autosmooth by angle option.

This would allow using Meshes in Revit without them ruining a presentation  drawing due to the flat shading.

In addition there should be a toggle to disable wireframes in meshes.

Shade smooth-flat.png

Intuos5
Advisor

Hi  @kimberly_fuhrman-jones,

From the looks of it you may have accidentally deleted my post "[Mesh] - Display options to control shading (smooth vs faceted) and wireframe control" in which I posted the difference between flat and smooth shading. I did mention wireframe display as well, that is redundant considering this thread.

The mesh smoothing (flat vs smooth shading, smoothing groups, sharp edges and autosmooth) is a different topic althogether, since it is not about the display of lines/ edges/ wires, but about the mesh itself.

Shade smooth-flat.png

So we should either remove the wireframe aspect from my idea or widen the scope of this idea to cover the topic of "Mesh display options" in general.

 

Hi, @Intuos5 ...I did not delete...it should have been moved. Let me investigate and see if I can restore your original Idea. It seemed to be very similar to the previous posts, however I understand what you are saying regarding shading. It may be easiest to rename the topic "Mesh Display Options" because they are very similar in nature.

Intuos5
Advisor

@kimberly_fuhrman-jonesIs it okay for you to rename this to: "Surface/ Mesh Display Options: Toggle Wireframe & Smooth or Faceted Shading" for completeness (technically speaking there is no removal of faceting)?  You may delete this post regardless of whether you agree or disagree so it doesn't clog up the comments. Thanks for merging the ideas!

 

teddie_goldenberg
Participant

Reviving this thread because I badly need this feature as I am doing a solar study on imported classic ionic columns, and the complex NURBS geometry doesn't fully import as .DWG or .DXF or .SAT -- it has to be meshed.

t_newsom
Participant

Just bumping this, as it is very frustrating not being able to coordinate with imported models from other software without the traingulation everywhere. It's ok for checking fit, but completely useless for actually showing both models in a drawing.

Janek.hmc
Participant

Mesh's already contained embedded edge versus iso tesselation conditions why not make an effort to control these visibility settings in Revit? Pretty typical of autodesk to ignore real issues.

Status changed to: Accepted

Congrats! We think this is a great idea, so we've decided to add it to our roadmap. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

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