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Revit Fabrication Pipe: Tagging Elevation of Both Ends

Revit Fabrication Pipe: Tagging Elevation of Both Ends

While fabrication pipe in Revit allows for a variety of elevation tags there are issues when it comes to sloped pipe.

 

Currently when using any of the elevation parameters they tag only one end of the pipe. For level runs this is not an issue, but it is not possible to get the top and bottom elevations of a sloped run. This was possible in Autocad with fab parts. The only available fields in Revit are:


- Bottom
- Bottom Elevation
- Bottom Elevation with Insulation
- Centerline Elevation
- Pipe Invert Elevation
- Spot Bottom Elevation
- Spot Bottom Elevation with Insulation
- Spot Top Elevation
- Spot Top Elevation with Insulation
- Top
- Top Elevation
- Top Elevation with Insulation

All of these values go off of one end of the pipe, not the other. Ideally we would like to see both the IE / BOP of both ends in a single tag.

5 Comments
Martin__Schmid
Autodesk
Status changed to: Gathering Support

Thanks for the post, and all of you that voted on it.

 

"All of these values go off of one end of the pipe, not the other." - this is not actually how it works.. so it is unclear if the voting is based on this statement, or on the request.

 

The actual behavior is that the values report based on where the leader points.

2020-05-18_10-59-24.png

 

 

Interpreting the request, it seems as though you'd like to have the following reference points easily annotatable (referring to image below for definition):

  • Topmost Pipe
  • Topmost Invert
  • Bottommost Pipe
  • Bottommost Invert

2020-05-18_11-22-15.png

Is that the correct interpretation? (recognizing that if these were parameters, you could add all that you like to a single tag).

 

Is there anything else missing or needed from these pipe related elevations?

 

E.g., would there be a need for the following... or anything else for that matter?

  • Topmost Insulation
  • Bottommost Insulation
wr.marshall
Advisor

Related idea: Both ends of Pipe Levels & Offsets in Properties 

@kimberly.fuhrman This might be same idea. However @EPSUpdates seem to refer to tagging, While my idea was the control of piping in the properties. 2 are related but different. If you feel same then please combine.

kimberly.fuhrman
Autodesk
Status changed to: Accepted

Congrats! We think this is a great idea, so we've decided to add it to our roadmap. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

The Factory

kimberly.fuhrman
Autodesk
Status changed to: Implemented

We are pleased to say that this has been implemented in Revit 2023! Thank you for your contribution to improving Revit!

 

-The Factory

shawnchambers
Contributor

So I'm a little late to the party here, as I've been using Revit 2022 on some long running projects and just jumped to Revit 2024, and I see this is a change that occurred in 2023.

 

As always, when a changes is made, there are some unintended changes that occur downstream. In this case, what I notice is that when I route my fabrication pipe using multi-point routing, the elevation is the bottom of the pipe, and not the insulation. So if I route 1" pipe with 1" insulation at 10'aff, my pipe is at 10', but the bottom of insulation is at 9'11".

 

In Revit 2022, if I had 1" pipe with 1" insulation, I could could route my pipe at 10'aff and know that the pipe is at 10'-1" and the bottom of insulation is 10'.

 

The number that matters is bottom of insulation. When you are routing pipe, you may have several different pipe diameters on the same pipe rack with different insulation thicknesses. They still all need to be at the same bottom of pipe elevation (including any insulation).

 

I'm hoping I'm not the first person to notice this and that there's just a toggle/parameter somewhere to adjust so that multi-point routing includes bottom of insulation when selecting elevation.

 

If not, I'm hoping one can be added sooner than later.

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