Disallow arrow key nudging of model elements

[JOfford_13]

Using the arrow-key nudging for text, annotations, tags, etc. is great but should never be permitted for floors, walls, levels, grids, and other physical objects.  The nudge amount is also zoom-specific and therefore imprecise.  Revit is promoting a horribly sloppy technique in technical drawings.

As a subcontractor/fabricator it's such a pain working with Revit models where lazy users have nudged nearly all their designs to just make a dimension string appear happy.  If you add up long runs of these dimensions the total deviation can often be significant.  Inventor doesn't not permit behavior like this.  I understand part of the problem is lazy users but Revit should not encourage such techniques in the first place.

[joesbartels]

This needs to be locked down.  We have run into issues with people accidentally moving embeds on a building and not noticing it until they were installed on the building.  This cost us lots of $$$ and made us look stupid.  Please fix.

[Anonymous]

We encounter this way too often with users that are inexperienced enough to not do this, as well as moderately experienced users. We highly enforce the idea of never to manually move anything, and I would strongly like to see this applied in an update.

[dplumb_BWBR]

I up-voted you, but then came back to add that sometimes it IS useful to Nudge modeled elements.

Walls, Doors, Ceilings - NEVER!

But I often nudge Furniture or Equipment.

Things like that often don't need perfect placement - and are rarely dimensioned.

So maybe restrict by Category? But now we're getting pretty fussy.

Perhaps another toggle at the bottom like Press & Drag or Select Pinned Elements

[benhagerman]

I disagree, an inexperienced user will always find a way to screw something up, don't take a way features just because someone made a mistake. It is useful to have the option to nudge, although it should never be used as an accurate way of modeling, for schematics and only.

[JOfford_13]

No other CAD platform has ever supported behavior like this, nor should it.  Nudging is for play-doh, not 3D technical software.  I cannot stress how awful the model-to-fabrication process is for models that are nudged at random.  We deal with air/water tight systems so 1/16" increments are critical.

[lionel.kai]

@benhagerman I would disagree - those schematic models eventually get turned into "real" drawings... I've had many issues in the past year or so with architects who've been using Revit (instead of a "play-doh" tool like Sketchup) to do schematics, then we have to deal with all of their ... 79/128", ... 235/256", etc. dimensions, as well as walls that aren't parallel (common in buildings with odd angles). I don't think restricting nudging would fix ALL of the problems, but it would certainly help...

[SteveDFThorne]

I think it should be tied to the on / off of the "drag elements with selection" toggle, and maybe the toggle should also eliminate the ability to drag an object after the object has been selected. 

[lionel.kai]

Or maybe a separate option? We still want to be able to drag Text, etc.  around... 🙂

[SteveDFThorne]

Very true