Drawing is somehow Xrefed into itself

[Anonymous]

I am currently working on a drawing and just relaized that it is somehow Xrefed into itself and I am unable to detach it.  Any thoughts?  Thanks in advance.

Regards,

S.Clancy

[rkmcswain]

Backnblack wrote:

Load the reference manager and detach....

The OP has mentioned in at least 5 posts in this thread that he cannot detach it.

[Anonymous]

BacknBlack...that is not option

[Anonymous]

Alfred,

I thought was going to work, but no dice.  Detach is still grayed out. 

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

in the renamed drawing turn on and thaw all layers, zoom extents (in modelspace) and then run command _WBLOCK and select all objects ... so a new drawing is created from the entities in the modelspace.

If this new drawing also have that issue then open the previous drawing and search for a block with the name "Xref - Buildung", and delete it. Run the _WBLOCK workflow again.

- alfred -

[Anonymous]

Alfred,

Still nothing.

[Anonymous]

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@rkmcswain wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Load the reference manager and detach....

The OP has mentioned in at least 5 posts in this thread that he cannot detach it.

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I did not see where he tried to use the reference manager, and he responded with thats not an option.

Without the OP posting the file everyone is just chasing thier tail.

[pendean]

Are you sure your file is not a "child" to another XREF in your file? Your reported inability to detach it would mean just that. Detach the other Xrefs that the program will allow you to detach and what it disappear.

[Anonymous]

Yes, this thought did cross my mind and no, it did not disappear when all other referneces were detached.

[pendean]

Are you running plain AutoCAD or something else?
Are you running any addons?
Did you use any 3rd party freeware or purchased addon from the Exchange site to grab content to bring into this file?

Two things to try next since you are unable to share this file:
1- close AutoCAD. Rename the file you open to XXYYZZ.dwg and open it. Does a file with this new name also show up in the XREF palette?
2- WBLOCK out the mode content to a new file, use a Window and not a Crossing window to select everything. Call the WBLOCK Resultant file AABBCC. Is there an XREF with that name in this new file?

[Anonymous]

I did not use 3rd party freeware it is AutoCAD 2015 and already tried the whole renaming/wblock method and it failed.

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

If possible remove the parts of the drawing which might be critical and then upload the drawing (as long as it shows the issue with the self-referencing).

- alfred -

[RobDraw]

Check all of the other XREFs to see if it is referenced. If it is needed in the file, change the Overlay/Attach setting to Overlay. If it is not needed, detach it.

[Anonymous]

Done all that already.  Not the issue.  Thanks anyway.

-S.Clancy

[pendean]

Ensure 2015 is fully patched and updated. Restart Windows.

There are free add-ons from the AutoCAD Exchange website that will do a lot more than regular AutoCAD PURGE command, grab and install one or both. One is called RADICAL PURGE and the other is called DWG PURGE.

Now.. Close AutoCAD, place this one file on your PC's desktop. Rename it. Disconnect from your network by unplugging the cable. Open this file in AutoCAD: what does it start complaining about and whare are your file content? I suggest you purge the file and all the unreferenced xrefs with the add-ons I mentioned.

Ensure all the XREFs got unloaded. Reconnect to your netowrk. Now open ONLY the other XREF files in your list of xrefs (do not open the original copy of the DWG file with the problem) and find out which of those, if any, has your top file xrefed in it. Remove it from each DWG file if found.

Now remain your original file, place the copy back, open it and reattach all the other XREFs.

If you're not able to do any of that then I need a lot more info then, or you need to jsut live with it, as I am unable to XREF a file into itself no matter how hard I try: see below, each color ought to be it's own screenshot(s).

[Anonymous]

I'm about to just abandon the drawing, copy and paste all the content into a new drawing and go from there.

[RobDraw]

XREFs cannot be detached, if there are multiple instances in the file. Unload all the XREFs and select all using Ctrl+A. If there are any XREFs, QSelect them, or use a filter, and delete them. Then detach.

[Anonymous]

[rkmcswain]

pendean wrote:

.....I am unable to XREF a file into itself no matter how hard I try:

At least not with AutoCAD.

Autodesk seems to think it's possible I suppose - at least through a circular reference. I'd like to see the TREE VIEW of the External References palette too.

[Anonymous]

[pendean]

And everything else I wrote in my previous reply?

If you can't WBLOCK with Window selection to clear it as I noted, then a copy/paste will also most likely fail for the same reason. Unless you didn't do any of it.

Did another program create your DWG files?