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It would be nice to be able to update view range of a floor plan or plan region on a section or 3d view by drag and drop its different primary ranges and view depth. Sometimes, the current way to solve a view range is a struggle, especially on RCP.
The diagram in the view range dialog box is merely conceptual, and gives an approximation of what the setting might do, but it is not interactive -- The view range dialog is clumsy to use, and unpredictable on complex projects, even for experienced users. The dialog should instead operate in real-time with a section or 3D view of the project so users can see what elements will be hidden as they adjust view range sliders.
the guess and check method can only get you so far. Make something similar to a section box in the 3d view, or an elevation tag in plan view. It could function like adjusting a floor where you can select it in plan view and then edit it in 3d.
@Anonymous and anyone else with a similar idea its a good one. It would cut out alot of guess work when one is trying to get some planes cut and out the door. It would be nice the slider could open a window showing how it would affect the plan if move up or down throughout the plan. But along with this visual representation it would autocalculate your view range numbers to show user where a certain cut is so the user can adjust the view range accordingly if desired.
An adjustable slides with live mini section (just like shown in the Help sample) showing where the ranges are set. And won't let you "overlap" the range adjustments (no more cut plane is below bottom error...etc). And flips for ceiling plans (which is always tricky to figure out the view range settings).
An interactive view range setting would help tons.
I would say that 70% of the user questions we get are things related to the view range settings or stuff that is invisible in plans. Just to understand how it works is a pain in the back.
So many times I had to open the object in 3D and to manually drag a dummy wall to see where the view range ACTUALLY cuts, because the settings are so unintuitive it hurts.
View range has always been a challenge for me especially for reflected ceiling plans.
It would great and very intuitive if when you clicked on the view range button a section view popped up and a drag bar tool (for lack of a better term) is drawn across the section like a reference plane that cut through the drawing.
You could drag the reference plane up and down to determine where you wanted to cut the view and then there would be other reference planes that you could drag up and down to set the limits of the view. You could also type in the heights similar to how it is now but there would be a visual of what the extents are just like they are shown in the majority of the tutorials for view range including the one from this site.
This is similar to the drag bars for the 3d section tool.
There needs to be a better to understand graphic for look up and look down. I don't care if revit reads my current view setting of there is a pull-down that changes it but the current graphic is messed up when it comes to understanding for these two completely different settings. Hoping users will get it is not funny. I would say to include a pull down that will switch between one or the other.
I would even say to have a live action section of MY building, with a view set up for that is the best method of understanding. When associated with associated level will of course dynamically change the character of the graphic in best case scenario.
When you right click the view cube in a 3D view and orient view to a plan view, it shows the view range as specified in the plan view properties. This is a good check to see if the view range is set up correctly but it would be much easier if there was a way you could drag the top and bottom extents in 3D to capture the range you desire.
Since this seems to be one of the more difficult concepts to wrap one's head around when learning or even troubleshooting REVIT views. Where you can click learn more and gives you the break down of how it works, its such a fantastic view of all the components. It would be great if could just control that each range with a handle instead also display the active view you are working within real-time.
It's ideas like this that make me wish I could code. This would make a great add on tool, an app that could turn any view into a quick temporary elevation with sliding controls for the view range, especially for RCPs where everything is upside down.
@Anonymous: Absolutely! View Range should have a separate enhanced window for it. Like the one in Allplan. User should have the possibility of choosing View Range by Reference Planes and Levels (relative dimensions) or by Topographic Elevation or Sea Level(absolute dimensions).
I recall that Allplan had 5 different modalities of choosing View Ranges.
Autodesk should also consider that every Revit user may have personal preferences or reasons about how View Range should be set. Architects may establish View Range by certain named planes and levels, while engineers may establish View Range by numbers / elevation dimensions. Engineering is all about numbers and dimensions (absolute or relative), more accurate, while architecture is more about proportions, less technical, less numbery.
