Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type.
Showing results for
Show only
|
Search instead for
Did you mean:
This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service.Translate
Similar to the recently added Showing Levels in 3D views, would be great to see Reference Planes in 3D as well, would pave the way for a lot more intuitive three dimensional modeling.
When dealing with complex geometry, it is crucial to be able to create Reference Planes in 3D view, by either pick a pre-existing planar face, or pick 3 points (similar to AutoCAD's 3-point UCS).
This problem exists Revit doesn't actually DO geometry per se. Revit is at it's core is an orthogonal relationship database, not a geometric one. Whereas AutoCAD locates and defines items based on the actual algebraic equations that define them, Revit just catalogs lwh, vertices (instead of actually recording the angle, it logs the location of each vertex/endpoint), radii and location. It doesn't even do real solid geometry, just faces that it "pretends" are solids. While this database is very robust in its ability to build relationships from parameters and constraints, it is sorely lacking in its ability to process equations. When drawing an ellipse is the closest the software gets to real CAD, you're going to have a hard time pulling off complex geometry.
Therefore I would say that the solution should go beyond simply providing the ability for a better defined reference plane... they should change the way Revit stores object data to a geometric database. Perhaps just lay the Revit API and GUI over 3DSMax's core and call it RevMax...
This type of omission of standard 3D modelling functionality is precisely why so many people are put off taking up Revit in the first place.
My journey has been painful at times trying fully understand why functions like this (as well as no point to point measuring or placing of sections or visibility of section markers in 3D) had me baffled that there must be a valid reason for their unavailability. I thought, as many have, that it's just my lack of Revit knowledge and that a greater mind than mine knew the technical reason for it. Now I realise it's got nothing to do with that, it's simply down to Autodesk deciding not to implement such useful functionality and (unwisely) deciding their time was better spent elsewhere despite these functions being totally logical to have within the software (it's why SketchUp is so easy to pickup and run with). I think they were busy making it so technically razor sharp that they took their eye off the ball as far as basic modelling functionality is concerned.
That being said, with the addition of levels visibility in 3D and tabbed working it does like the they are finally realising the lack of some basic functionality is a barrier to many getting into Revit. They appear now to be trying to iron-out it's idiosyncrasies (of which there are many), and this can only be a good thing for all.
thank the gods we finally got non-orthogonal 3D view...please oh Revit gods get us some basic modelling functionality to go along with it - YOU'RE ALMOST THERE!
I am looking for a way to make ALL reference planes visible in 3D-mode. If I activate the reference planes in the visibility settings, only the horizontal reference planes are shown, but nut the vertical ones. (In plans and elevations, both horizontal ones and vertical ones are shown).
Please, feel free to vote for it and encourage other users with the same wish to do so as well. This helps our development team to prioritize incomming wishes.
@Zsolt.Varga - moderation team has removed hyperlink as it is no longer active.
So I played around with this a bit. This is not a full solution, but by setting the reference plane you wish to see in 3D as the current work plane, you can press "show work plane" in your 3D view. This allows at least some form of 3D visualization of your reference plane.
Another work around I've found if your desperate - draw the window you'd like to show on your reference plane with model lines so that at least the perimeter can show up in 3D. The plane itself remains clear, unfortunately can't think of a work around for that.
In Family editor show reference lines and reference planes in 3D views when set in Visibility/Graphics Overrides. You can set them "on" but they don't show up in 3D view.
I just found myself wanting to enter this as a brilliant new idea - only to find that I had voted for this before. How come this does not take off more? Given the considerable number of users now anonymous, maybe not everyone prooved as patient as the lot that is still listed.
It's frankly shameful that such a great and useful idea has been ignored for so long. Autodesk is really dropping the ball and it's getting frustrating, especially for such an expensive program that most people are forced to use since it is the industry standard.
Thanks guys to for the polite comments, but obviously, the Adesk team doesn't care much about the users' comments (the new feats ackowledging "user wish" are scarce), and I guess being rude wouldn't help. Nothing new here.
That said, right now, managing ref planes via solely 2D views means creating various views (plan, elevation, section etc) solely dedicated to manage ref planes, which implies creating these views and their templates, in order to prevent these planes to extend to other views where they would interfere. Complex models require serious ref plane managing: I don't wan't my level 26 curtain wall ref planes to show up in my level -2 slab views. That's an actual behaviour in Revit. And please don't talk about workarounds in this case, or any: they are proofs Revit doesn't work as intended.
Thus, ref planes should be visible and sizeable from a 3D view, and I upvote this idea.
Next, Curtain walls grids, which are ref planes at their core, should be visible and manageable just as ref planes. That's an other terrible case of incompetence from Autodesk. I just wish they would be forced to use Revit to design a building...
