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Please start producing REVIT for Mac. It is a must have application for architecture students and the mac industry occupies a huge part of the computer industry. We really need the software.
Back in the very early 1980s I was introduced to a concept that always comes to mind when i come across discussions like this. It was the days of the KISS principle, and I believe that it still applies here: the advice for those considering buying a computer was to apply the ASH principle. Application, THEN Software and AFTER THAT Hardware.
Applying that principle, one clearly does not buy a computer and then complain the software you want does not run on it. That’s like buying a two seater car; then thinking how do I fit my family of five into it; and only then thinking the Application I want my car to perform is to be a family car for the 3 kids, my spouse and possibly a grandparent or two...
Similarly, the guidance back then in the seminar I attended was: decide what functionality - what Application - you want the computer to perform. Back then this was non-trivial because it required the purchasing team to examine what might be the benefit of ‘computerising’ a particular function. If there was no demonstrable improvement in the firm, be wary (though there might be a marketing advantage - e.g. ‘we are more advanced because we know and understand computers’; much like the current fashion for stating ‘we know parametrics’).
Next you investigated what Software could do this application. What did it costinitially? What were the training issues? What was the ongoing cost? Was it compatible with how the firm currently worked?
Finally, after establishing the Application could improve functionality through use of a particular piece of Software one looked to choose the Hardware - the computer itself. A then S then H
ASH
applied with intelligence, like the KISS ‘principle’, this ASH ‘principle’ still works well.
Not exactly. Time changed. The Hardware nowadays is here, to complete a lot of different tasks.
So, I’m using a MacPro because it fits my needs very well for … let’s say 50 percent of my daily work. I’m used to it, know the system behind it and I like the concept of using it.
Why then, I have to change to a different system, just because the software I would like to use, is not available for my current system?
At the moment I’m fine with my MacPro (2013) and Windows 10 running under Parallels. But in the future, it would be nice to have a native Revit running on a very potential Mac.
Mac OS debuted in 1984 so there wasn't really a choice back then. Simpler times indeed. However, after working for decades on PC machines running Windows I have found Apple hardware, OS X and iOS to be better options. Everyday more and more people and businesses are coming to the same conclusion. The hardware and OS have been bulletproof for me. And are far less vulnerable to viruses and hacking. The hardware has also proven to have two to three times the life cycle of their PC counterpart.
Bottom line is Microsoft and many other companies have ported their applications to Mac. If AutoDesk wants to stay relevant then they should make a version for Mac. Simple as that.
People with PC upgrade three times more often because PC parts are three times cheaper not because the Mac hardware is better. Most all Mac hardware these days is the same hardware used in PC. For example the Vega Chip used is the Imac Pro is the same Vega chip on a Sapphire or XFX GPU albit an under clocked one it is still the same chip. The RX 560/570/580 used in the 2017 Imac is just the same as the PC counter part. Even the chipset on the boards are the same these days.
It is laughable that you think Microsoft porting MS Office is even a valid comparison to porting Revit. In addtion companies like Adobe who work with both MacOS and windows likely were made for the Mac OS first. It is considerably easier to write software on the MacOs and then port it over to windows. It is not always so easy the other way around. Not sure why you think Autodesk is going to get knocked off the hill because they do not make software for market that is made up of less than 4% of all computer users in the world. When Macs reach 25% of the worlds computer users then Autodesk will start caring about your plight. If you can afford to purchase Revit you can afford to maintain a windows machine to support it.
People with PC upgrade three times more often because PC parts are three times cheaper not because the Mac hardware is better. Most all Mac hardware these days is the same hardware used in PC. For example the Vega Chip used is the Imac Pro is the same Vega chip on a Sapphire or XFX GPU albit an under clocked one it is still the same chip. The RX 560/570/580 used in the 2017 Imac is just the same as the PC counter part. Even the chipset on the boards are the same these days.
It is laughable that you think Microsoft porting MS Office is even a valid comparison to porting Revit. In addition companies like Adobe who work with both MacOS and windows likely were made for the Mac OS first. It is considerably easier to write software on the MacOs and then port it over to windows. It is not always so easy the other way around. Not sure why you think Autodesk is going to get knocked off the hill because they do not make software for market that is made up of less than 4% of all computer users in the world. When Macs reach 25% of the worlds computer users then Autodesk will start caring about your plight. If you can afford to purchase Revit you can afford to maintain a windows machine to support it.
Dear : Apple Mac was first than Revit. In OS from Mac we have Vectorworks which is better than Revit ( for my consideration). The thing is a marketing problem, because Revit is used as leader in the market unaffortunnally. Attention: I don't like Revit , is mandatory know about it, for the reasons before explained. I have had PC computer before I decide migrate to Mac early 2000 yr. Due to an impossible work with virus and antivirus , it is hard live working only to repair the computer. As I am architect Apple manage better graphic language. But in everywhere, in each office at US everybody work in Revit unaffortunnaly. Thanks.
@arqsancoGNXNC as someone who came from 10 years on AutoCAD, then 10 years on Vectorworks, I can tell you my 6 years in Revit are by far the best. Vectorworks just isn't built well for BIM (although it's improving). We were a Mac office (40 staff) and we reluctantly had to switch to PCs to move to Revit, but it was worth it.
@arqsancoGNXNC I have used vectorwork, I have used Archicad, I have used Autocad and I use Revit. I can tell you that after using autocad for 3 years Revit was much easier to transition to. Revit has a much more streamlined work flow than any of the others. What is unfortunate is not that revit is everywhere "I remember when no one even knew the name revit" but more that people like you can not come to grips with it is windows only software and it has been windows Only software since early 2000's before Autodesk bought the software.
I don’t profess to know the merits or different degrees of difficulty in writing programs in macOS verses windows, but Autodesk thought enough of the Mac community to make an AutoCAD version….not to mention Microsoft making their legacy programs (for the most part) Mac native.
@Anonymous not the same either autocad is a very old program that was programed for the Mac long long long ago. Then one day Autodesk said we are not going to develop it any more. Then after some blowback they decided to start making it again, they did not rewrite the windows version they just updated the old mac code they already had. Also autocad is much more basic program. What Microsoft Legacy programs are you talking about?
The main problem is that you can not just port Revit to Mac you have to completely rewrite the software because of the tools it was originally programed with.
I was thinking about the Mac version of Outlook, Word, Excel, etc. I know Microsoft is in a different league, but it was a significant attempt IMO to stay connected to the Mac world
@bhwelliver that software is much simpler but more importantly before google made all those types of applications cloud based, there was not a whole lot of options of Office software. Office software is some of the most basic software to be created and at least it is targeted at a 10% market share were there was no competition. Revit on the other hand is complex information modeling software that is capable of preforming seismic, energy, structural, wind calculation. It also has the ability to generate detailed reports that can be used to estimate the cost and stream line the ordering process. Of the 10% market share of computer users that use a Mac world wide maybe 4% of those mac users would use revit, and that number is generous. I can tell you that of my ten friends that run Macs I am the only one that uses Revit. By that sample alone the number is much closer to 1%.
La versión de autocad para mac es muy buena, incluso superior a la de Windows. Sería muy útil tener Revit en un mac, ya que considero que no hay mejor entorno de trabajo que OSX, esto empujaría a que mucho usuarios windows se pasen a Mac, ya que están estancados en Windows por no contar con el software apropiado en OSX
Folks, I've been so frustrated with Revit lately, and specifically with the lack of basic functionality, that I started looking elsewhere. I believe that there is a better alternative to Revit on the Mac and it is called Vectorworks. With their 2019 release they have really caught up to some of the features that Revit had for along time. And much of their other features, especially free form 3D modelling, documentation, ability to make documents look really good, PDF support, spreadsheets/tables/schedules, export/import, built-in scripting, both visual and programmatic in Python, are very advanced.
Basically the competition is getting better at BIM faster than Revit is implementing basic functionality that's been requested for years now. I have been using Revit for 10 years now and I have invested a lot in mastering the platform but the lack of development and continued high costs of ownership are sapping the life out of me. I highly recommend that everyone here educate themselves as to what else is out there. Make your decisions evidence based.
