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Please start producing REVIT for Mac. It is a must have application for architecture students and the mac industry occupies a huge part of the computer industry. We really need the software.
REVIT AND 3DS MAX ARE CRUCIAL FOR INTERIOR DESIGN STUDENTS WHO OPERATE ON MAC COMPUTERS! PLEASE MAKE THEM AVAILABLE FOR US TO WORK WITH!
Slow down one software at at time! 😜
Revit will do everything you need for interior design 3DS Max is just a luxury one that if your using a Mac you just do not get. Run Revit in a VM if you have a good enough system it will not really matter.
The only reason you ever need to run Revit Natively is for rendering and then only if you have a supported GPU, I run a headless windows computer that serves up Revit for me using HP Remote Graphic software. The system has a ATI Radeon Vega 64, but because it is not certified by Autodesk I run Revit in Software mode rather then hardware mode. This is because in Hardware mode I receive a lot of graphic glitches. However the most important part is if I render on the Mac or I render on windows they both take the sometime. I am sure if I was able to use Hardware
Acceleration that rendering would be cut in half. I would also guess this to be similar issue with rendering in Max.
P.S. If you run Parallels in Coherence mode Revit will function like it belongs on your Mac with copy and paste and drag and drop.
I'm pretty sure that 600 is not even nearly close to real number of potential mac users, cause most people have never visited this page. Starting wide range interrogation by autodesk itself, for example, could be much more efficent way to get objective data.
My guess is we will never see a new Mac native version of any AutoDesk application. The subscription based software delivery has taken hold at AutoDesk. I believe they will continue to align their application subscriptions and delivery after Adobe. I'm not an Adobe software user so I'm not clear on how it all works.
I imagine the ideal arrangement for any software developer would be to have all the software cloud based so it can only be utilizes through a virtual, cloud based environment. A license would give you the ability to download and save the files locally but you can only open them in the virtual environment by logging into their servers. This software delivery model started with Google apps. Microsoft seems to be moving that way with their office suite too.
The disadvantage for the user is it makes it necessary to be connected to the cloud for access to the software. The advantage for AutoDesk is the are able to control the licensing much more easily. Pardon the pun, but it is virtually hacker proof. AutoDesk has already created their A360 system to facilitate group efforts on project. So they are already building the cloud for it.
The added advantage to user is the ability to leave a project in the cloud. No need to maintain local file storage or software updates. And if your local machine, PC/Mac/Linux or what have you, goes belly up, you can be back up and running by simply replacing the device.
The shameful thing about it all is the various software developers have us by the short hairs and they know it. They have traditionally been over priced citing pirates as the reason. However, once the pirates are eliminated due to the restructuring of the delivery method I highly doubt we will see a reduction to pricing. I'm sure Google is aware of this and will be continuing to develop SketchUp so as to make it an alternative. Perhaps some price parity will come about as a result.
As you know Mac has always been a nich, market so it is vastly smaller then the PC market. So in a world where the bottom line rules Mac Revit does not make sense to them as much as we scream and yell. Incorporated with the bureaucracy of writing software for Mac OS they do not want to bother. What you need to also understand is Revit was never built on the Mac this was not an Autodesk choice this was the choice of the original developer of Revit. I would guess that is the reason there is no 3D Max on the Mac either as it was not really auto desks software till a few releases in. Software like Maya was Mac OS when Autodesk bought them up adobe was Mac software from the start and was ported to work on windows. It is much easier to port from Mac to Windows rather than Windows to Mac. To make either software run on a Mac there would need to be a complete rewrite of the software.
Currently I basically have my own cloud for Revit, a headless windows PC in a closet on a 10 gigabit ethernet directly connected to my Mac. It is not perfect or ideal but it works and after years of working with a Revit VM I can say that in both cases the software worked seamlessly. The only reason I changed from a VM to headless server with HP Remote Access software, was that Recap Pro did not work in the VM environment.
Autodesk for years has been trying to push subscription at least on Revit users. And they are not already building the cloud structure it is already built. I remember when I first started using Auto-cad the Trial I downloaded was cloud based it was an app but the information it was showing you was being loaded from a cloud server. This was about 18 years ago.
I prefer my files on the computer as with the software I purchased Revit 2016 and have been dining in my heals since it was the last version where you could purchase a standalone unlimited lic without subscription. I find the cost to maintain a subscription to Revit on a 3yr upgrade cycle to be about the same as buy it out right. So no savings hear. You made mention of being pushed to sketch-up why would you think sketch-up is an option over Archicad? I have took training classes on Archicad and have used it a bit. I tried to change over but in a time where time is the bottom line I did not have the time to work the initial slowdown I would face while I adapted to the new software.
I find that the cost to maintain a subscription to Adobe to be about $300 - $500 cheaper then if I would buy the software on a 3yr upgrade cycle. Here is the kicker I can sit down at my Mac and use my adobe software, I can sit down at my laptop and use my adobe software and do this with one LIC. Before you had to have a LIC for both systems types. I can also sign out of the LIC on one computer and sign in on another if I need to.
It is funny you mention that pirates are the reason for over priced software, since windows and office are likely two of the most pirated softwares in the world they are rather cheap. I mean $200 is a lot when google is giving it for free but I think the more polished feel of Office. And Windows well it is also around $200 for something that is making everything work is rather cheap as well, though I guess when compared to Mac OS being Free it is expensive.
If the education system decided one day to up and drop Autodesk due to the lack of Mac Support that might light a fire under Autodesk A$$ but until then Mac users are just going to have to suck it up and run windows somehow to feed there Revit Addiction.
Many companies have opted to not use Mac simply on basis that revit doesn't have a native Mac version, hence denying the industry the option in many ways. I think Apple enhances many other softwares which architects use, and this advantage is lost if the Windows route is taken. A native Mac version of revit is an expectation which should have been met without request from the start.
I don't know how it could have taken this long without it being available.
I think the industry deserves that basic commitment, so that if you go the apple route you know the software manufacturers are committed to servicing you, otherwise most companies who may desire to go that route, feel they don't have a firm footing with this type of lack of commitment.
many very usable features of the apple system which may make the architectural office function better are simple lost on the basis of this consideration.
Just can't understand how this has not been serviced yet....
@Anonymous. From the start Revit was software for windows it was never meant to run on a Mac and that was the company that developed Revit, (hit that was not Autodesk). There is not much if anything that you can do on a Mac that you can not do on windows in the Architectural world. As for you can not understand, Well the answer is Autodesk did not create Revit someone else did and that someone else did not care about Mac users. By the time Autodesk bought/acquired Revit from the Florida company it was in release 6 or 7 and a complete rebuilt of the software was not on the table.
Mac is like 10% of the population and likely 2% of the architectural world maybe pushed to 5% if we had Revit on Mac. To Me it is very easy to see why they did not waste the resources to build a Mac version the money just is not there. Yes I realize everyone in Europe uses Archicad and Mac, still the percentage is too low for Autodesk.
Money is not always the subject, it’s not about money, they already have million of dollars, it’s about to have a leadership among software companies, lot of software companies support 2 platforms Windows and Mac, and somehow that 10% of population is not an obstacle. Its like you would say let’s not do ADA accessible building features because it’s small fraction of population, it’s a waste of time. Strongly disagree !
@Anonymous You are high if you think that the bottom line "THE MONEY" is not what is keeping a Mac Revit out of the spot light. I promise you that if there was not ADA creating rules, Architects would not design for ADA. That is why I stick Single Family Design as to avoid ADA requirements. Yea I am a jerk I know. Most companies that have products that run on Mac and windows designed the product to run on Mac and then ported it over. However, Revit as I have said in the past two posts was not created by Autodesk it was created by another company and that company was a small operation and likely did not have the resources (that cost money) or programing skills to program native to Mac and port to windows. The problem here is many of you do not know the history of the Revit software or the undertaking it would be to create software for 2% - 5% of the computer population. Remember software companies do not care if they have a million dollars they want more it would be very naive to think otherwise.
Don't fight each other. Don't be angry, or waste time discussing this, just because Autodesk may have clear on their plans when and if they need to launch a MAC version of any software. And they can't say it public, just when this will be a real fact.
See AutoCAD as an example. They've launched a Mac version, and keep updating it, but not for money, because it represents ZERO on sales.
Forget the wish, forget the fight. Because, after so many messages on this topic, if they didn't turned it to a new release product, it's because MAC don't represents an issue.
My opinion:
The AEC industry uses many software, and not only Autodesk. And the 99,9% of those software are based on Windows. The AEC industry is a Windows user. Don't exist a reasonable explanation to invest on a MAC version. Noway, never and ever.
I'm saying that because I am on this industry since 1999, working with Software, and Consulting, Implementation, and worked 7 years at Autodesk. Every day I visited companies, less then 0,1% had MAC, and those who had it, used the BOOTCAMP to work with both (Mac and Windows).
@BIM_Cardial. I am totally not fighting or angry in the least, I just think people feel like they should be entitled to something and if they stomp their feet they will get it but do not understand the complexity of it. When it comes to Autocad they had a back bone that was written for the the Mac Natively, then they stoped making it for a long time then it got brought back so they were able to just updated it. For Revit they would be starting from almost nothing is my guess since it was never meant for Mac.
I would guess that if you went international you would have found that number rise, but only ever so slightly since Mac is about 10% of the world PC. Everyone I have worked with in Europe with sound engineers use Archicad.
IMO the best option right now would be to build the most bassA$$ windows PC you can install windows on with TB3 adaptor, Direct connect it to your Mac TB3, and use Revit over HP Remote Graphic Software. When both computers on side by sides screens I am not able to see a delay from the remote computer to the sender computer.
I am not on either side I am just a realest and everything Autodesk has ever said about Revit Mac was it is not going to happen GFO. I used windows many years and I changed to Mac, so using revit in a VM or remotely was a change I just had to get used to years after I began to use it. I would love love a Mac Version of Revit provided it had point cloud capability's unlike the Mac version. But still then I would need Windows for Recap and Recap like Revit does not work with Parallels @ least not 6 months ago when I changed from VM to Remote.
I am a student planning on attending post secondary, study the architectural field. having spoken to people who have attended university already, they all request revit. the only issue is, I like the majority of developing youth my age are using mac operating computers and would love and extremely benefit from a native Mac version of revit.
