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Preserve Attached Tags When Moving Walls and Other Objects

Preserve Attached Tags When Moving Walls and Other Objects

I would like to propose a feature enhancement to improve the behavior of moving objects—especially walls—without losing the tags attached in various views.

The Problem:

  • In many projects, particularly those involving existing buildings and geometric corrections after point cloud surveys, walls often need to be repositioned or adjusted.

  • When wall elements (with their embedded doors, windows, and associated components) are moved using tools like the Move or Align, Revit currently deletes all related tags in all views.

  • Although using the arrow keys for slight adjustments preserves the tags, more controlled moves necessary for precision result in significant, undesirable data loss.

  • Losing tags on later project phases results in additional manual work to reapply tags and increases the risk of oversight, ultimately affecting the drawing integrity and documentation accuracy.

Why This Change is Critical:

  • Efficiency and Accuracy: On detailed documentation or late-stage design modifications, the ability to adjust wall placement without losing tag information is essential for both maintaining precision and ensuring that schedules and annotations remain accurate.

  • Risk Management: Automatically deleting tags increases the risk of errors and omissions, which can impact both the quality of deliverables and overall project timelines.

  • User-Focused Workflow: Given that slight adjustments work fine with arrow-key inputs, it suggests that Revit already supports non-destructive movement in some cases. Extending this capability to more precise movement tools (like Move and Align) would enhance the overall workflow.

  • Urgency: As precision adjustments are commonly required in projects with existing buildings or geometrically corrected surveys, this improvement is critical. A solution in the form of a prompt fix rather than waiting for a major release would alleviate a significant pain point for many users.

Proposed Enhancement:

  • Modify the behavior of the Move and Align tools so that tags associated with moved objects (e.g., walls and their associated doors/windows) are preserved in all affected views.

  • Ensure that the functionality seamlessly transitions between small adjustments (using arrow keys) and more controlled moves without unintended data loss.

  • Consider an optional setting that allows users to choose whether tags are automatically reattached or left in place when elements are moved, providing more control depending on project stage or user preference.

This feature would greatly improve documentation integrity and efficiency, reduce the risk of human error, and support smoother adjustments on detailed projects. I trust that this enhancement will be recognized as critical and receive priority attention.

2 Comments
mhiserZFHXS
Advisor

I can't recreate this. Tags are moving with walls and hosted elements just fine for me.

luisPDAN6
Advocate

Let me give an example:

1 - I intend to move the selected wall.

luisPDAN6_0-1744272526694.png

2 - Move with the keyboard arrow key to the left. The wall moves without any warnings.

luisPDAN6_1-1744272595435.png

3 - Attempt to move 50mm with the move command:

luisPDAN6_2-1744272663265.png

I get all these errors:

Elements will be deleted

01 ARK Hovedfil : : Wall Opening : id 4701130
01 ARK Hovedfil : : Wall Opening : id 4701131
01 ARK Hovedfil : : Void Extrusion : id 4701137
01 ARK Hovedfil : : Opening Cut : id 4701184
01 ARK Hovedfil : : Wall Opening : id 4701212
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Wall Opening : Wall Opening : id 4701213
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Basic Wall : YV 02 640 mm - Gul : id 4702839
View "Section: Snitt B Kjeller" : Spot Elevations : Spot Elevations : Snitt - Survey - meter - 2.5mm Arial Arrow : id 4886972
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 5425651
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 5425652
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100 Heiser" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 5570211
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100 Heiser" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 5570212
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 7745333
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 7745655
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 7745659
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Sykkelparkering" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 7983117
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Sykkelparkering" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 7983118
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 DG13 og Krigsskolen 1_200" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 8141640
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 DG13 og Krigsskolen 1_200" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 8141641
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan Dører" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 9887723
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan Dører" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 9887724
View "Floor Plan: Situasjonsplan 1. etg." : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 10346385
View "Floor Plan: Situasjonsplan 1. etg." : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 10346386
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_For Kotehøyder" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 11237946
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_For Kotehøyder" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 11237947
View "Section: Gårdsrom Alt1" : Dimensions : Linear Dimension Style : 2.5mm Arial Meter Simple : id 11250193
View "Section: Gårdsrom Alt2 - Mot DG13" : Dimensions : Linear Dimension Style : 2.5mm Arial Meter Simple : id 11250911
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_For Kotehøyder Copy 1" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 11254363
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_For Kotehøyder Copy 1" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 11254364
View "Floor Plan: Situasjonsplan 1. etg. Copy 1" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 11257084
View "Floor Plan: Situasjonsplan 1. etg. Copy 1" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 11257085
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_For Kotehøyder Copy 2" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 11284662
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_For Kotehøyder Copy 2" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 11284663
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - eksist" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 11339521
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - eksist" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11339523
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - eksist" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11339524
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - ny" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11341938
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Basic Wall : YV 02 640 mm - Gul : id 11541103
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Basic Wall : YV 02 640 mm - Gul : id 11541104
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Basic Wall : YV 02 640 mm - Gul : id 11541105
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Basic Wall : YV 02 640 mm - Gul : id 11541106
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Basic Wall : YV 02 640 mm - Gul : id 11541107
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Basic Wall : YV 02 640 mm - Gul : id 11541108
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Basic Wall : YV 02 640 mm - Gul : id 11559477
View "Elevation: Vest B7.5" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 11655090
View "Elevation: Vest B7.5" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655092
View "Elevation: Vest B7.5" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655093
View "Elevation: Vest B7.6" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 11655227
View "Elevation: Vest B7.6" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655229
View "Elevation: Vest B7.6" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655230
View "Elevation: Vest B8.4" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 11655370
View "Elevation: Vest B8.4" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655372
View "Elevation: Vest B8.4" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655373
View "Elevation: Vest B9.4" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 11655513
View "Elevation: Vest B9.4" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655515
View "Elevation: Vest B9.4" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655516
View "Elevation: Vest D7.2" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 11655656
View "Elevation: Vest D7.2" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655658
View "Elevation: Vest D7.2" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655659
View "Elevation: Vest D8.1" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 11655815
View "Elevation: Vest D8.1" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655817
View "Elevation: Vest D8.1" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655818
View "Elevation: Vest D9.1" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 11655960
View "Elevation: Vest D9.1" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655962
View "Elevation: Vest D9.1" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11655963
View "Elevation: vest D10.1" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 11656096
View "Elevation: vest D10.1" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11656098
View "Elevation: vest D10.1" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 11656099
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Basic Wall : IV 03 150mm : id 12575369
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100" : Window Tags : Window Tag : Type 1.5mm : id 12808166
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100" : Window Tags : Window Tag : Type 1.5mm : id 12808173
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 12808340
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 12808356
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 12808378
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Basic Wall : IV 03 150mm : id 12843205
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 12914799
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 12914807
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 12914817
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - til RS2B" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 13072000
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - til RS2B" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 13072001
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - til RS2B" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 13072002
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - ny - til RS2B" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 13074777
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - ny - til RS2B" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 13074779
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - riving" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 13080070
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - riving" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 13080071
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - riving" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 13080072
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - ny Copy 1" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 13191276
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - ny Copy 1" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 13191277
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - ny Copy 1" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 13191278
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - til RS2B Test grafik" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 13366829
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - til RS2B Test grafik" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 13366830
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - til RS2B Test grafik" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 13366831
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - ny - til RS2B Test grafik" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 13368767
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest - ny - til RS2B Test grafik" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 13368768
View "Floor Plan: Gulvplan 1. etg" : Dimensions : Linear Dimension Style : 2.5mm Arial Fixed : id 13376853
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Basic Wall : IV 03 150mm : id 13396474
01 ARK Hovedfil : Walls : Basic Wall : YV 02 640 mm - Gul : id 13422547
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100 D2 Eksisterende" : Spot Elevations : Spot Elevations : Plan - Survey - meter - 2 mm Arial : id 13454520
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100 PUB" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 14242392
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100 PUB" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 14242393
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100 PUB" : Window Tags : Window Tag : Type 1.5mm : id 14242982
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100 PUB" : Window Tags : Window Tag : Type 1.5mm : id 14242983
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100 PUB" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 14242993
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100 PUB" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 14242999
View "Floor Plan: AB 01 Hovedplan 1_100 PUB" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark : Door Tag Mark : id 14243008
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest PUB" : Window Tags : Windowtag_Family2 : Windowtag_Family2 : id 14251085
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest PUB" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 14251086
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest PUB" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 14251087
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest PUB" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 14251279
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest PUB" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 14251280
View "Elevation: Fasade Vest PUB" : Door Tags : Door Tag Mark_1mm : Door Tag Mark_1mm : id 14251281

 

So I can conclude that the move command uses a different code that the keyboard arrow move. For some reason the Move command creates a lot of errors that force elements to be deleted. That needs to be urgently looked into.

 

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