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Revit 2027 Duct, Pipe, Conduit & Tray Sizing

Revit 2027 Duct, Pipe, Conduit & Tray Sizing

Restore the ability to resize duct, pipe, conduit, and cable tray runs along with their fittings using the Modify Multi-Select ribbon. Previous versions of Revit allowed users to select connected segments and fittings and modify their sizes simultaneously. In Revit 2027, users must resize the straight segments and fittings separately, adding unnecessary steps to a common MEP workflow. Reinstating this functionality would improve efficiency and provide a more consistent editing experience for MEP designers and engineers.

23 Comments
jw.vanasselt
Advocate

Voted this one!
There is a function Change Size, but that one disappears when you use nested components inside the fitting.

loudelashof
Participant

Let us say; It is not a good idea that functions such as mentioned, as well as ChangeType, and Slope (for piping) have been disabled IF fitting-families contain any shared-nested components.
Autodesk's comments, which I saw, mention: "some issues have occured ending up in some crashes"... 
Installers & engineers need way more time on 2026 and beyond due to the disabling when shared-nested is being used. Over 12 years it all worked fine until recently some people found some issues more important than rock-solid and proven workflows... most affected are the pipefittings for waste-pipes; #Geberit #Wavin #Dyka #Aliaxis #GeorgFischer

jwarrenQ2ZK4
Explorer

These new changes to piping, duct, and cable trays are devastating to the workflow of MEP designers. 

aaron.lippard
Explorer

This may be one of the worst changes they could make. This makes a task that used to take a few seconds turn into nearly a minute, or longer, depending on how many errors changing just the pipes before the fittings cause. 

djg
Explorer
Explorer

Agreeing with Aaron on this one.  This isn't moving MEP Revit workflow/design forward, its taking a big step backwards. 👎

icecreme98
Contributor

Also post your comment here in the Bug Report to get their attention to get this fixed ASAP:

RVTPR-01477 - Revit Preview

maiconDNGQP
Explorer

I completely agree with @Dave_Barnette and the other commenters here. As @jwarrenQ2ZK4 mentioned, these changes are truly devastating to the workflow of MEP designers. Our MEP design firm is currently stuck on Revit 2026 because migrating to Revit 2027 is completely unfeasible without these critical sizing and routing tools.

The UI redesign and the removal of the Options Bar have severely impacted our productivity. Like aaron.lippard noted, what used to take seconds now takes much longer due to the unnecessary extra steps.

Specifically, our team is struggling with the following missing workflows:

  • Simultaneous Sizing: As the original post states, we must now resize straight segments and fittings separately. Selecting both pipes and fittings completely hides the diameter/size option in the Properties palette.

  • Vertical Routing (Risers): The missing "Apply" button (formerly located on the Options Bar) makes routing vertical pipes highly difficult and unintuitive.

  • UI Inefficiency: The Properties palette is overloaded. Forcing users to hunt for basic parameters like "Diameter" and "Middle Elevation" among dozens of other properties severely slows down modeling. The Options Bar placed these strategically at the top.

We strongly urge the Autodesk development team to release a hotfix restoring the Modify Multi-Select sizing tools and the Options Bar controls for MEP elements. Until this is addressed, our firm cannot adopt Revit 2027.

I agree with @jwarrenQ2ZK4, @maiconDNGQP and the others comments these changes are truly devastating to the workflow of MEP designers.
We urgently need Autodesk to release a fix restoring the dimensioning tools for multiple selection and the Options Bar controls for MEP elements. Until this issue is resolved, our company will not be able to adopt Revit 2027.

KDavisATG
Explorer

On my Revit 2027, when I select the Run there is a "Change Size" button

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When you click it, then you can change the size of all of the run.

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RLY_15
Advisor

(Based on 2027.2)

 

The Change Size button is 'almost' there, but it's still a net negative from the prior UI.

 

  • You can't type in alternate units and retrieve near-equivalencies. So no mm->inch or vice versa. This isn't a common workflow, but it was an option before.
  • To inspect a common-size run of combination ducts and fittings, you have to enter the Change Size command even if you don't actually want to change the size. In the prior versions, selecting a run of 12" round with 12" elbows actually showed (via the contextual mini ribbon) that the whole run was 12" diameter. In the Properties palette, the Size is displayed as <Varies>, so 
  • At the start of the command, you can hit Enter Key to exit the command, but you cannot do so to apply changes. So...
    • You still have to press buttons for confirmation. Previously, you just had to move the mouse off the contextual mini-ribbon to apply changes. A hand twitch is always faster than a precision click.
  • You can't inspect the Elevation of a combination of Ducts and Fittings, even if they have identical values. Again, this was previously visible through the mini ribbon.

The only saving grace is that Change Size is configurable as a keyboard shortcut, but it's still less functional than the legacy design.

 

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Risers

 

The new workflow to generate an open-ended riser is now drawing an element, changing the Elevation in the Properties palette, then going back to Placement Tools to hit the Create Riser Button. Which is to say the screen locations to generate a vertical offset due to elevation and a riser element are now in two completely different places, versus just staying in the mini ribbon via the old Apply button.

 

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cSol
Advocate

If possible, open a support ticket regarding this feature. An important option was simply removed here without providing an adequate alternative.

SGA-ryan_tomblin
Explorer

Another item on this topic is the nomenclature that a pipe size must be typed in as when changing the size. Instead of hitting "1.5" and enter on the keyboard, you now must type in "1 1/2" or scroll through the list of options. Really nitpicky request, but made the workflow feel much more seamless previously. 

sbolinTAKXF
Community Visitor

Even with creating a keyboard short cut for 'change size' for single and multiple you can tell that this was an afterthought on the Revit team since the toolbar ribbon resizes and reloads the ui entirely to enter the change size tool. It's bulky and doesn't add anything better to my workflow that wasn't already there with previous editions. At least give us a way to toggle this change tool on if we want it in the future, but right off the bat in a new edition is not the move. Get some help.

nstarrettRHPYC
Explorer

In Revit 2027, the Options Bar was removed, which used to let MEP users quickly change pipe and duct sizes and elevations while modeling. Those controls are now moved into other menus or the Properties palette, which makes a very common workflow slower and less convenient.

Could these controls be restored to the Options Bar, or added back in a similar quick-access location, so pipe and duct sizes and elevations can be changed easily while modeling?

Chris_forry
Participant

Supporting this, and I'd frame it as step count rather than feel, since that's harder to argue with.

Changing pipe diameter mid-run in 2026: click the field in the Options Bar, type, Enter. Three actions, command stays live, cursor never leaves the modeling area.

Same change in 2027: move to the Properties palette, find the row, click it, type, Enter, move back, re-acquire your placement point. Seven.

The two new steps are the expensive ones. Cursor travel and visual search are what break the modeling loop, and neither shows up as a click. The Options Bar was a fixed single row that never moved, so it was pure muscle memory. Properties is a variable-height list whose row positions shift with element type and scroll state, so you have to look for the field every time.

Support's workaround for vertical stub up adds another one on top: confirm the elevation has been applied in Properties before entering the shortcut. That confirmation is a step that did not exist in 2026, and it's in the official guidance.

Same story on walls. Location line went from two clicks inside the command to the same round trip, which means architectural users have the identical problem and aren't showing up in MEP vote counts.

Three actions to seven, on the change we make most. An optional toggle fixes it without pulling the new UI.

jls5
New Member

This was a terrible change for the workflow of pipe modeling; the riser function is so unintuitive and to not have the ability to change size right on the ribbon is just a waste of time. Also, I completely agree with another comment about pipe size input. Why was the ability to just use 1.5" instead of having to use 1 1/2". These changes seem so backwards

jrialesH38NV
Community Visitor

I agree, having the height and pipe diameter in the setting now adds a significant amount of time to an action that was once quite efficient. On larger projects, this simple UI change can build up on time pretty quick. I am not sure why it was adjusted, but I feel most can agree this is a negative change in terms of efficiency. If they are wanting to move a specific direction with the UI, at least give us the option to toggle the options bar back on and have the options bar off as default.

loudelashof
Participant

relax people.... the issue with using shared nested families within MEP-fitting families is solved as for the most recent Revit 2027 update.
I assume there will also follow an update for 2026 soon.

lhauswirth
Explorer

Adding some additional context: another post on this same issue — “Restore the contextual Options Bar for MEP creation tools (Pipe, Duct, Conduit & Cable Tray)” — has already received over 100 total engagements, while this post appears to be in the “Gathering Support” stage on the Ideas page.

I’m commenting here in hopes that the support and development teams recognize the widespread concern from the MEP community regarding what has become a significant productivity slowdown.

To work around this workflow regression, our firm has continued using Revit 2025 for as many new projects as possible specifically to retain the contextual Options Bar and the more efficient MEP workflow it provides.

RLY_15
Advisor

The bulk of the posts were created before the nested family issue was resolved in 2027.3, the concern was valid at the time of their posts. It's also not the only concern outlined.

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