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Phase Visibility Control via View Filters

Phase Visibility Control via View Filters

 

Using phase filters to control the appearance of elements is archaic and limiting and confusing. View Filters have come very far and View Templates have as well so now it's time to let us control the appearance of element's phase status via View Filters along with so many other things. You should be able to select current phase, any prior phase, or a specific phase in the filter and then control appearance for those filtered elements just like you would any other View Filter.

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El estado se ha cambiado a: Accepted

Congrats! We think this is a great idea, so we've decided to add it to our roadmap. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

The Factory

calin.crudu
Contributor

For now, if you are working with Project Phases you can only enable one by one. If for example, you would like to see only two or three Project Faces in the middle you would have to use  Template settings,  Filter settings or Override Graphics By Element in order to have the desired output.

 

Example: If I have 30 Project Phases to a project let's say that I would like to see in a view, only Phase 12 and Phase 13.

The problem is that for now, I cannot have this without adjustments and the program will display me either phases from 1 to 12 or from 1 to 13 altogether.

There is also a topic on Autodesk Forum that I have found:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/phase-filters-and-display-of-multiple-phases/td...

 

Please consider adjusting it. Thank you.

 

 

lionel.kai
Advisor

You are correct, Phase Visibility Control via View Filters is needed for that functionality. That idea has been accepted, so hopefully we'll see it in 2022...

lionel.kai
Advisor

You are correct, Phase Visibility Control via View Filters is needed for that functionality. That idea has been "ACCEPTED", so hopefully we'll see it in 2022...

gsucci
Collaborator

You can easily display multiple phases by overlapping two or more same-scale views in the sheet.

Of course it works only if you print the sheet, not the single views...

crapai
Advocate

This sounds great but will have limited usefulness for us until MEPT elements stop becoming bricks once they are demolished. They loose system information and connectivity with other demolished elements. We do not use revit demolition status in our projects becuase of this.

This request assumes that the Revit UI/UX designers would find an alternative that does not destroy the information when phasing is used properly.

andrey_pawlow
Enthusiast

Wow it is 2021 version and phase visibility in systems is steel lame imperfection . I cannot use the phases to accurately demolish and view systems in phases - this is a big issue! @Anonymous  team please do something asap!

SamuelAB
Advocate

One of the most aggravating thing about this is that if you open an old project, there is just no simple way to understand how the MEP phasing work, because it will differ for every company. So there is no easy way to understand the reality of the project or extract all phases of the building accurately.

 

Meanwhile there is a complete system for Phasing used by the entire Revit ecosystem, except Revit MEP.

Darin_HDR
Advocate

Graphic Filters are a great tool. Unfortunately (in some circumstances) they are not over ridden by phase filters. 

 

Let's say I want to set up a filter to turn all my new walls blue for a graphic presentation. Well I can set up a graphic filter to turn my walls blue but that grabs all walls (new and existing). I can set up a phase filter to turn all the walls blue but that turns everything new blue (not just the walls).

 

There is currently no way to set up a graphic filter for a category that applies to phases. Please give us a category in the Filter Rules for phases.

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Darin_HDR
Advocate

They all are similar but there is a distinct difference in that one is asking for more control over Phase Filters (by adding categories) and the other is asking for more control over Graphic Filters (by adding phases). Both are needed and both will have a slightly different control of the overall graphics of the project so they should be kept separate.  You could add my post to Phase Visibility Control via View Filters - autodesk. Since that one is so popular, I would hate to highjack it with my new post. 

 

Phase Graphic Overrides by Category - Autodesk Community and Override Phase Graphics - Autodesk Community could also be combined together, just not with this one.

 

Thanks again for managing all this stuff.

@Darin_HDR  That makes sense. Thank you for clarifying. I will combine yours with the one you suggested, but leave a placeholder for this one that will stay in "Latest Ideas".

Thank you for the suggestions!

 

-Kimberly

El estado se ha cambiado a: Implemented

We are pleased to say that this has been implemented in Revit 2022!

 

-The Factory

andrey_pawlow
Enthusiast

You are the best!

SamuelAB
Advocate

This is great, however since Revit MEP does not work with Phasing and uses random user-generated filters instead, the process is kind of half broken and none of this will work on the MEP models. The non-responding MEP models will stick out like a sore thumb and a recurring sore point (as usual).

 

Looking forward for phasing to be completely solved, including the nightmare that is Revit MEP Phasing :cara_con_una_leve_sonrisa: Keep up the good work!

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-mep-forum/best-practices-for-multiple-phases-of-demolition-with...

JasonKunkel
Collaborator

Huzzah! I am going to print this out and frame it!

Darin_HDR
Advocate

It's like a ray of sunshine has poked through the clouds to shine right on my heart. This makes me feel warm and fuzzy on the inside.

@Darin_HDR  So glad I could make your day! I do believe marking Ideas as Implemented is my new favorite part of my job! Enjoy!!

 

-Kimberly

andrey_pawlow
Enthusiast

well, I was too quick to praise you guys, it seems that MEP phasing is still an issue. waiting for update with correct MEP phasing. As for me I have found the way to use shared parameters to represent MEP phasing which keeps at least parts of my systems connected and colored through the filters.

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