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Phase Visibility Control via View Filters

Phase Visibility Control via View Filters

 

Using phase filters to control the appearance of elements is archaic and limiting and confusing. View Filters have come very far and View Templates have as well so now it's time to let us control the appearance of element's phase status via View Filters along with so many other things. You should be able to select current phase, any prior phase, or a specific phase in the filter and then control appearance for those filtered elements just like you would any other View Filter.

101 Comments
SteveDFThorne
Collaborator

It would be ideal to be able to access and control the "Phasing>Graphic Overrides" from the "Visibility / Graphics Overrides" panel by view rather than the one global setting under "phases" as it currently is. 

 

The global setting would still be good for any views that haven't been overridden. 

 

This would be useful for working views with phasing and colour drawings or black and white demolition drawings rather than one or the other. 

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

Basam.Yousif
Advisor

I always wondered why phases had their own graphics control - inconsistent with the rest. In fact, I was just thinking about it this morning and was trying to formulate a thought for the post.

 

Good call!

SteveDFThorne
Collaborator

: )

Anonymous
Not applicable

One thing I would like to be able to do is see the line of the original topography in sections and elevations, and only that (in dashed black and not the tipical yellow for demolished that we use for demolition plans). Right now I have to manually draw that profile, and redraw it everytime the view is changed. It's very time consuming and not acurated...

lionel.kai
Advisor

@Anonymous We keep our existing & new Topography in two separate models that get linked into the main one - it provides MUCH better control over visibility (and less issues if you get lazy and use Building Pads).

Anonymous
Not applicable
These workarounds are all symptoms of a gravely broken system that has received no love for way too long. The current phasing logic for topography is totally broken and more of a pain than something I would package as a paid service.
pieter7
Advisor

@Anonymous Topo and phasing could definitely use some work. There's a revit idea about it: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/fix-topography-not-responding-to-phases-properly/idi-p/6852786

 

Consider adding your vote if you haven't done so already.

Anonymous
Not applicable
Hehe, that's my idea under my personal Autodesk account.
Anonymous
Not applicable

Thanks, Lionel. Never imagine that kind of workarround. It get's us another linked file (that we had to hide in all the other views), and probably we would have to have that as an adicional topo in the new construction phase, but it would actually do the trick. Thanks! : )

 

PS: Voted on the ideia you mention Pieter. Again, there should be a BUG section, instead of an IDEA section. Maybe then Autodesk would pay more attention to that...

Anonymous
Not applicable

Sometimes small project models are mutli discipline (A, MEP as Revit was initially intended to be used) and each discipline would like to control the graphic overrides so existing pipe is not as thin as an existing wall. Additional control of phases is needed.

LyleHardin
Advisor

Heck yes, I'm giving this a big vote! This is exactly what I'm trying to do. I would like to adjust my views to show different phases as different colors (or transparency or other visual attribute). It's pretty difficult to do right now.

For instance I have phases 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. 

In some views I want phases 1, 2, 3 to show as existing and 4 and 5 to show as new. (not doable)

In other views I want phases 1, 2, 3, 4 to show as existing and just 5 to show new. (doable with phase filters)

dtiemeyer
Advisor

Me too. I need to apply half-tone to just Existing plumbing fixtures, would LOVE it Filters could do this.

JacobDSimpson
Advocate

This could be a very BASIC and ULTRA USEFUL filter. PLEASE ALLOW THIS! 

lionel.kai
Advisor

This will probably need to be a separate idea at some point, but Filtering by Design Option would be nice to have too - to be able to highlight what's in the Design Option (and make everything else gray). I know I could work around it (if it's simple) by using Phases instead, but still...

JasonKunkel
Collaborator
B.Fetzer
Advocate

Hi Jacob!

Filter by Phases is possible today.

In the Project Browser and in a single view. But you have to know how.

Or is this a other filter you suggest ?

 

Kind regards, Bernhard

Yien_Chao
Advisor

The phase filter is not enough?

JasonKunkel
Collaborator

The phase filter is not enough. It is too limiting.

JacobDSimpson
Advocate

Bernhard,

 

How do you filter by phase?

Is this possible in Revit 2017?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Jacob

B.Fetzer
Advocate

@JacobDSimpson

First possibility:
At the Project-Browser: Right-Klick on the first Item of the Browser, select "browser view", select the View Tab, select New, give a Name (e.g. "by Phases"), set Filter "Phase" and select the needed Phase by Name or select the "Group and Sort by" Tab and select "Phase".

 

Second:

On a view: Select at the property browser the required phase and change the phase filter (only new, new and inventory and so on)


It might by possible that I don't match the correct description of the Revit-Tabs in the English version because I'm using the German one.

 

Kind regards from Germany,

Bernhard

 

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