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Difference between architectural floor and structural floor

Difference between architectural floor and structural floor

At the moment there is just a category denominated 'Floor' and on every project, we have both architectural floors for floor finishes and structural floors for the deck/concrete part of the structure. Sometimes, it is useful to turn off only the architectural or structural parts. Could this generic category 'Floor' be split into Architectural Floors and Structural Floors for better management of the elements? Or just create a new one for Structural Floors like Structural Columns or structural Framing...

 

Thank you

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ShineThrone
Enthusiast

I want Structural Floor and Hide Non-Core Layer like walls "VV" Non-Core Layer

Because the structural floor slab is constructed first with FL+, then the finished surface is constructed with FFL+

 

need to turn off the stucco layer in the plan view to see the structural slab hatch, and then you can also choose to see only the structural floor in 3D.

 

 

like Revit 2020 walls Non-Core Layer

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/revit-2022-non-core-layer-issues/td-p/103194...

 

I before ideas

won't let wall finish show up on plane

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/won-t-let-wall-finish-show-up-on-plane/m-p/1...

 

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Mike.FORM
Advisor

Use the "Structural Slab" tool in the Structure tab. They are categorized under "structural foundations" in the project browser. They can be built up the same as floor types. They do not have to be just a solid concrete slab.

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Hi Mike,

 

Thanks for your response.

 

As the name suggests, the 'foundation slab' tool is primarily intended for foundation elements like base slabs. However, when using this tool, all these elements are categorized under the 'Structural Foundations' category. This isn't ideal if you want to isolate or adjust the visibility settings for 'structural slabs/floors'—which should apply to above-ground slabs (e.g., reinforced concrete slabs, post-tensioned slabs, composite decks, etc.).

 

There are, of course, a few workarounds to manage this, but I thought it would be really helpful to have a distinct category for 'structural slabs' that aren't treated as part of the 'Structural Foundations' category.

 

Thanks

samuelsanf
Mentor

Like Walls, Floors have an instance "Structural" (yes/no) parameter, that you could use to filter.

 

I usually model structural and architectural (finish) floor as separate elements. I think may be useful a sub-category for "Non-Core Layers" like the one we have on walls.

Hi Samuel,

 

Thanks for your comment.

 

Yeah, that's a good way to filter structural slabs, but the main point is that a structural slab is such an important element that it should have its own category, similar to how Revit distinguishes between structural columns and architectural columns.

 

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Thanks

 

MOR-ConorMacken
Advocate

An architectural floor (i.e. finish) could be attached to or hosted by a structural floor with its bottom level being set by the slab's top level.

Arnout-
Contributor

There is already a selection box for Structural. In Structural views only structural floors ar displayed.

just filter on structural or bearing.

 

 

awasyliw
Advocate

The problem with using foundation slabs is that Engineer's will not do this, because that isn't what the tool is meant to do and because we all need to be able to turn foundations on and off separately to structural floors.

PieterL_TM
Advocate

The structural discipline doesn't hide non-structural floors.

 

I know this is an existing discussion on the structure forum, but I wanted to add this as an idea. It seems like an easy thing to fix and it makes sense to me that floors would behave the same way walls do when switching disciplines.

 

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Susana_Duarte_LMSI
Collaborator

This could be as simple as having an order for the links as structural elements are usually in their own link...

Wanted Revit to handle simple visualisation overlays since forever... Crazy...

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