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Allow the creation of revision sets

Allow the creation of revision sets

In the UK its industry standard to use complex revision letters, we never use revisions such as A, B, C or 1, 2 ,3.

 

We always prefix the revision with a letter to denote the project stage i.e. Preliminary, Tender, Construction, which gives revisions such as:

 

P01, P02, P03, T01, T02, C01, C02, C03 etc

 

 

The Revision Tool in Revit should be able to handle these types of revision codes as well as simple A, B, C codes.

 

74 Comments
angela_bachetti
Contributor

You can currently creating revisions by project or by sheet.  We would like to be able to create multiple sheet sets with their own revision scheduling.

islay_burgess
Participant

Add the ability to have multiple Types of Revision clouds, so there could be one set for client submissions and another for those going to the building department. 

 

Also a way organize and control test for the client/DOB differences too. Something like a Workset for annotation. 

llewej01
Explorer
Additional Alphanumeric and Numeric numbering sequences. More flexibility with revision tool.
I need to be able to have multiple revision sequences for different stages in my projects. For example, A, B, C, D, etc for Preliminary/Developed Design stages 0, 0A, 0B, 0C, 0D etc For Tender/Building Consent 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 For Construction At the moment this can not be done because there is only one sequence for Alphanumeric and Numeric. We need More Flexibility with revisions
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Chris_D_UK
Advocate
In the UK, alphanumeric revisions are actually mandated by the 1192 document series, but are not possible in Revit. The program does have alphanumeric revisions, but in a very flawed implementation that doesn't actually work
Martin Stone
Contributor

I also posted about this on the Autodesk forum. In the UK we often use alphanumeric sequences for revisions. The consultancy I'm with at present use P1, P2 etc. for Preliminary issues. T1, T2 etc. for Tender issues and C1, C2 etc. for Contract issues. There is a workaround for this but it's a manual process rather than an automatic one.

Chris_D_UK
Advocate

Here's a link to the old discussion on the Community forum. Somehow the terrible non-functioning workaround that the support specialist proposes got accepted as a solution.

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-mep/revision-numbering/m-p/6348581#M33078

Chris_D_UK
Advocate

Here's how it needs to work in the UK to comply with our national BIM standards: BS1192 and PAS1192-2

 

We issue drawings with the following statuses:

- Preliminary

- Tender

- Construction

 

The 1192 standards require the revisions to be prefixed to represent the status:

- Preliminary = P1, P2, P3 etc

- Tender = T1, T2, T3 etc

- Construction = C1, C2, C3 etc

 

It's important to note that the number (the suffix part of the revision) gets reset at each stage, so the first Tender issue is always T1 and the first Construction issue is always C1, and also that the numbers on different drawing sheets won't necessarily match, because some drawings get more revisions than others - you therefore can't predict the sequence, and can't manually add the sequence in the central revisions area.

 

One way for this to work would be for Autodesk to introduce a system parameter for Status (applied to Sheets), linked to a prefix. When the Status gets changed, the revision responds by changing the prefix and resetting the numeral.

 

Another way would be to directly introduce a system parameter for Revision Prefix (applied to Sheets), which resets the revision number when it's changed.

 

The way it is at the moment, the whole of the UK Revit community simply can't comply with the UK's national BIM standards

llewej01
Explorer

Thanks Chris, That is really clear. Hopefully Autodesk will take notice and finally do something about this problem.

 

 

Chris_D_UK
Advocate

There's an interesting blog post from Evolve Consultancy which suggests a workaround for alphanumeric revisions in Revit 2016, which is to use the prefix, but to wipe revisions between stages, i.e. you do P1, P2, P3 etc, then clear the revisions before doing C1, C2, C3 etc.

 

I'm not keen on that approach as the sheet loses its true revision history. Come on Autodesk, support international BIM standards!!

 

Link to the blog post:

http://www.evolve-consultancy.com/resource/guides/revit-2016-revision-prefixes-bs1192

sburca
Advocate

2017 (at least) has this under the "Alphanumeric" option. You can "Enter sequence values, separated by commas."

Kevin.Bell
Advisor

Unfortunatly, that doesn't work - The revisions we use don't necessarily follow a set sequence, for example, they jump from P series to T series at some point not always after the same revision number.

 

This is the standard BS 1192 way of working...

sburca
Advocate

Are you sure it doesn't work? Is the attached (Revit 2016) not what you're trying to accomplish? (the revisions increment from left to right).Revision - Alphanumeric.JPG

Kevin.Bell
Advisor

The problem is that they do not always follow the same sequence.

 

One drawing might go:

 

P01, P02, T01, C01, C02, C03, C04, R01

 

Whereas another might go:

 

P01, P02, P03, P04, C01, C02, R01

 

It depends on when the drawing changes from Preliminary, to Tender, to Construction then to Record.

sburca
Advocate

And you can change the sequence in the dialog box. Maybe I'm just not understanding your "idea", but to me this alphanumeric option allows you to use whatever revision designation you want, and it's project specific. COMPLETELY customizable.

 

As I said, maybe I'm just not understanding what else you need, beyond the alphanumeric option.

Kevin.Bell
Advisor

I'm not sitting in front of a computer with Revit at the moment and so cant test it, but are you able to skip revisions which you put in as the sequence?

 

For instance, are you able to revise the drawing as P01, and then jump to C01 for the next revision even if you've put in the Revision sequence as P01, P02, P03 then C01 in the customise sequence dialog?

 

 

sburca
Advocate

Yes. Either remove them from the alphanumeric list or create a few "revisions" which you "Issue" with no revisions.

 

We use numerical revisions, and use the second option above when the consultants have a revision with no revisions to our set. This way it keeps all revisions consistent across the set.

Kevin.Bell
Advisor

I can't remove them from the list as other drawings might require the revision.

 

The second options might work, but it would be a lot of work, the large projects I work on have hundreds of drawings, some drawings have many revisions - this would mean that I'd have to add loads of 'No revisions' to drawings.

 

I think all we need is the ability to 'manually' enter the revision letter when using a sequence is not appropriate.

scott_dakin2
Collaborator

We have tried the Prefix option and it does not work.

 

We use a combination of system revision numbers by Number and a shared parameter for the issue code 'c' or 'p' etc.

 

Every time we go from one stage of work on a drawing to another we remove all the previous revisions. T1 to T3, all revisions removed, P1 to P5, all revisions removed, C1 to C3 etc

 

You have all the PDF and DWFx files for the history.

heinrich.boldt
Collaborator

 Very good idea,


Thank you for publish.

 

we need the revision all time in three Number-Writing "001" ...."015"..

and same for several sheettypes

First draws :

  • "E01"
  • "E02"
  • "E03"

Work sheets

  •  "B01"
  • ....

 

I think, here is a Link to the same type of development point 

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/allow-complex-revision-numbers-letters/idi-p/6597626

heinrich.boldt
Collaborator

 Very good idea,


Thank you for publish.

 

we need the revision all time in three Number-Writing "001" ...."015"..

and same for several sheettypes

First draws :

  • "E01"
  • "E02"
  • "E03"

Work sheets

  •  "B01"
  • ....

 

I think, here is a Link to the same type of development point 

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/revision-tool-additional-alphanumeric-and-numeric-numberi...

greats
Heinrich

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