Add Future category for Phasing.

[WFTDesign]

Please take look at my Revit file showing 8 Phase Filters plus 5 Phases labeled as Phase 1, Phase 2, so on.  I have experimented with several filters and applying to phases. 

HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT is none of 20 shows have future walls shown. 

PLEASE ADD FUTURE CATEGORY.  Thanks. 

Link to my Revit File:  https://a360.co/2DD0mrD

QFA 01 B904 Revit Phasing House Sample- FUTURE WALLS NOT SHOWN.rvt

[wr.marshall]

In addition for phasing, need the ability to better control phasing. An issue that I am having is that I have a new wall type and set it to existing. If I use the override in the phasing menu (previous and new) it greys it out. if I have this as by category for existing wall then it shows the hatch pattern for a new brick wall. My work around is to have a new type of wall which I have called existing and removed the fill pattern from it. I realise one can override individual elements by select them and right clicking and overriding by element. the becomes a bit tedious if you for argument sake have 100 existing walls.   I have tried to modify the phase fill pattern to be a solid white fill, but this doesn't seem to have any affect, again forcing me to resort to creating an existing wall type in a wall family.  Due to this lack of better control feature for phasing I am required to create the same wall/floor/roof... 3 times. Once as new, once as existing, once as by others. 

The reason by others, is so that I can have grey walls for the neighbouring houses here in the UK, where neighbouring houses share a common wall. And that way when I render views the neighbours houses are greyed well even existing walls for the project appear in colour

[WFTDesign]

wr.marshall,

Thank you for making comment. That made me think and became like mad scientist. Doing little more to the Revit File already uploaded here.  Now I am linking updated file with WORKAROUND SOLUTION that I think that may address your concern. That is, I had to copy same walls three times. Then redo phases at each wall to a phase. At the end, the workaround looked good. Here is link:  https://a360.co/2Uo2Pvn

Now I want to address to your comment, you mentioned new type of wall, I did attempt and not worked right. So instead of new wall type, I used OVERRIDE elements to make each New Construction walls look like future wall by setting line style to dashed and thinner lineweight. 

As you say, you had to create same wall, floor, roof three times. That is the WORKAROUND SOLUTION, so welcome to our club. 

Instead of 3 phases if we hand draw them, we are having 6 phases to make Revit drawing look good, Great Scott.

By the way, thank you to everyone who voted to support my idea.  6 votes already! Awesome!  

[Radish_G]

Yes, it's one of the must option that we needed, nowadays many of the projects that I am handling got Future services. Which has to modelled, coordinated, during the previous phase.

Kindly provide this option.

[WFTDesign]

Yes, BIG AMEN,  santhorathi !!!

Awesome with 27 votes and counting! 

[mroble]

I'm running into this now. Even though in real world construction there's only "new" and "existing", we STILL need to show what's to come.

Generally Existing is gray and either hidden or solid, and it's light...

New is darker, bolder, and solid...

Future is Red, normally a phantom (Double Dash, whatever) and just one weight darker than Existing stuff.

It's normally required because if you're designing, let's say a pump station, and by the time Phase 3 is completed, you may have 10 pumps installed. Five on Phase 1, three on Phase 2, two more on Phase 3.

If you start doing Phase 1 work without showing, at the least, the future equipment for Phases 2 and 3, someone is going to occupy that area with something.

I would even be ok with using the "Temporary" element in lieu of "Future" if that's a possibility.

[mroble]

I did it using a project parameter and filters.

[CCanonaco]

For Revit 2020 or 2020.1 or even a 2019.3

A Future Phase column in Phasing Filters is an excellent idea.

Schedules already have the ability to filter by Phases.

This is what could be used for proposed changes.

[JLHALL-ENG3]

My construction project is a tenant build out for 80% of an existing building shell... the rest is FUTURE.  We must set space aside in our equipment room for Future equipment serving the future 20% that may or may not happen.  That space must be accounted for in the Current Phase.  We draw in equipment and plan out where duct and pipe connect, but we want it represented different from the current phase, and we don't really want duct or pipe to influence the current phase duct and pipe. 

So the equipment itself could be shown dashed in the current phase, and solid in the future phase.  Perhaps we want it invisible in the current phase, and solid in future.  Piping and ductwork in the current phase should remain intact, but in future show tees with segment breaks (plus whatever portion that was demolished to insert the tee).

[martyny]

Brilliant Idea.

I can use this for so many things and make my life and work so much easier.

Let's go Autodesk!

[WFTDesign]

@kimberly_fuhrman-jones 

Is that my Revit Idea already implemented?  Link to the other Revit Idea: Phasing, Showing Future Phases - Autodesk Community

[kimberly_fuhrman-jones]

@WFTDesign , I can certainly mark this as Implemented since there is a way to show Future phases in Revit 2022, however technically a Future category was not added specifically to the Phase Filters as shown above. If you feel that what was implemented in Revit 2022 covers your request, I can change the status for you.

Thank you!

Kimberly

[martyny]

Honestly, I don't see this as having been implemented.

It is the Phasing element that deals in time and so therefore this is where future should be shown.

When I show a client what we are proposing to supply now and what we will supply in the future, these are two separate orders and so happen at two different points in time.

This could be handled as per the following:

The client may decide not to go ahead with the future order and so the whole phase can be removed.

Or

The client may decide to go ahead with the future order and so a new drawing can be created at that point in time showing what was previously implemented as existing and the future becomes new.

Or

The client decides to include the future with the current works and so therefore the new and future phases can be merged.

[art.a.tecture]

could really use this feature right now!

[cartetaTXMGC]

Most people have had to make due with workarounds for this issue, but it is something that would be really good to have. In all honesty, I'm actually surprised it isn't possible right now with how much else Revit can do already.

[CEdwardsUN5MX]

The Phase filters have 4 Categories available for overrides:

• New
• Existing
• Demolished
• Temporary

There needs to be a 5th Category:

• Future

Logic behind this, is that the work I'm doing, is frequently of a 'shell and core' nature, the elements that are going into the shell, need however to be coordinated and shown to be coordinated against future work, that we are also responsible for as designers.

The workaround of using a Filter that is set to the phase created does work, but the limit in the order of phases that will be displayed, is always going to be the current phase. It is not possible to be in a current phase, and show the future work.

Example:

I have a project where there are 4 phases. They are called:

• Existing
• Enabling Work
• Shell & Core
• Internal Fitout

If Shell & Core is the current phase, and I set up a Phase Filter, the limit on what is displayed is always going to be excluding Internal Fitout. To show Internal Fitout against Shell & Core, so that I can place elements that need to go in at the S&C phase in the correct position relative to where the Internal Fitout needs them to be (like drainage) I have to make Internal Fitout the current phase and use a filter, but everything I add will be to the Internal Fitout phase, not the Shell & Core one.

I've been doing this due to the absence of any other option, which has meant a lot of updating of elements to the correct phase.

This could be avoided if there was more flexibility in how phases are filtered with a 'Future' option added.

Anyway, another idea to gather dust, sorry, 'gathering support', for the next 10 years or so.

[julien_moreaux]

I have 2 ideas that will help the drafter methods:

- Creation of a future phase (same as existing phase, temporary phase, new phase).

- Creation of phase subcategory.

- Access via API resumes to the phase description.

- Add a schedule with Phase.