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Layer Display and Phasing

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Message 1 of 21
PhilvK
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Layer Display and Phasing

I am trying to understand what controls layer display in phasing. For example, I wanted to change all linework for New walls to blue, but when I did that under Phase Graphic Overrides, the layers disappeared and the wall is shown only in outline. Does this have something to do with the Phasing Material column?

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Message 2 of 21
ToanDN
in reply to: PhilvK

Change existing phase material to By category.

Message 3 of 21
barthbradley
in reply to: PhilvK

Why don't you do this via a Rule-Based Filter applied to the View?  Filter Rule = Phase Created. 

 

NewBlue.png

Message 4 of 21
PhilvK
in reply to: ToanDN

Where? When I select the drop down arrow in the Phasing - Material column, I get the martial's selection list, not an option to select by Category. I am obviously missing something here.

Message 5 of 21
PhilvK
in reply to: barthbradley

Please see my reply to ToanDN about not understanding something.

Message 6 of 21
barthbradley
in reply to: PhilvK


@PhilvK wrote:

Please see my reply to ToanDN about not understanding something.


 

Okay.  

 

Then press the No Material button under Material for New. But this is going to be a global condition.  

Message 7 of 21
PhilvK
in reply to: ToanDN

I'm back to this and struggling with how to change the Phase Material to 'By Category', and figuring where and what setting makes the wall layers disappear when walls are set to existing. Any ideas where to look to figure out what I did?

Message 8 of 21
barthbradley
in reply to: PhilvK

Phase Material?  You mean under Phasing Graphic Overrides?  If so, there is no BY CATEGORY.   Existing, Demolished, New and Temporary are not Categories.  

 

...can you elaborate on what you mean by "wall layers disappear"?  Sounds like the View Detail Level is set to Coarse. 

Message 9 of 21
barthbradley
in reply to: PhilvK

Sounds like your Existing Category is set to "Not Displayed" in the Phase Filter dialog box for the Phase Filter the View is using.  

 

Not Displayed.png

Message 10 of 21
PhilvK
in reply to: barthbradley

Your comment about 'coarse' is a good point. All the walls below are from Level 1 to Level 2 at 10' with the cut plane at 4'-0". My questions are:

1.  Why is the 'Existing' wall showing as it would in Coarse detail level, when the view detail level is medium, and

2.  Is there a way to have the Existing wall show in Medium detail level, only in halftone? 

 

Phasing Question.jpg

Message 11 of 21
barthbradley
in reply to: PhilvK

Because the Cut Pattern is HIDDEN.  

Message 12 of 21
PhilvK
in reply to: barthbradley

I thought that too, but when I unhide the cut pattern, the full wall gets filled.

Phasing Question2.jpg

 

Message 13 of 21
barthbradley
in reply to: PhilvK

Then set the Material to NO MATERIAL if that's what you want to do. 

Message 14 of 21
PhilvK
in reply to: barthbradley

Tried that, but can't figure where 'NO MATERIAL' option is to be able to set it.

Message 15 of 21
barthbradley
in reply to: PhilvK

Actually, why don't you NOT Override Existing at all?  Change Existing to By Category.  

Message 16 of 21
barthbradley
in reply to: PhilvK

Try this and see if you like it. 

 

Existing12.png

 

...but keep in mind that this is a Global Setting. Maybe the better approach is to leave Phase Graphic Overrides alone and Override Graphics in View By Element or By Filter instead. 

Message 17 of 21
ToanDN
in reply to: PhilvK


@PhilvK wrote:

I'm back to this and struggling with how to change the Phase Material to 'By Category', and figuring where and what setting makes the wall layers disappear when walls are set to existing. Any ideas where to look to

figure out what I did?


By Category means No overrides.

 

ToanDN_0-1670784376452.png

 

 

Or just highlight the material name in the phase overrides and press Delete.

Message 18 of 21
PhilvK
in reply to: barthbradley

How did you clear all the boxes on the EXISTING line? 

Message 19 of 21
barthbradley
in reply to: PhilvK

Clear Overrides button. 

 

...@ bottom left

Message 20 of 21
PhilvK
in reply to: barthbradley

Thank you, thank you !

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