How can I find hidden rooms in Revit 2024?

How can I find hidden rooms in Revit 2024?

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How can I find hidden rooms in Revit 2024?

franciane_pereira9Z2WH
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Hello, everyone,

I have a problem exporting an IFC file. There are some rooms that do not appear in the Revit program. These rooms are named Coz. Area or prohibition. Area. I have not named any elements with these names. The names are automatically generated by the revit program.

I would delete these rooms if they were showing up within the rooms table, but they are not showing up.

Does anyone have a suggestion?

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Are you referring to rooms that have been placed and you cant find, or the list the you can pick from when placing a new Room.

 

Are these rooms coming from the IFC, or are they showing in the IFC after you export from Revit?

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if the rooms are not places but showing in a schedule or table. make a room schedule and filter it by Area or Volumn. then set the qualification to Has No Value. 

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any room that shows up has not been placed and can be deleted from the schedule. this should remove it from the room list.

 

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franciane_pereira9Z2WH
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They are showing n the IFC after I export from Revit. And I didn't put them in my project.
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I've looked at this table and those rooms don't appear there.
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Do you have any filters on your Room Schedule?

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I didn't put any filters into the roows schedule. But how can I check if something like this was created? But this file is used by someone else.

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I found the location to add filter, but there is no filter on them.
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hmunsell
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do you have any links in your model? could these rooms be coming from them?

 

  • in the Fields tab, check the Include Elements in Links
  • in the Sorting/Grouping tab. make sure Itemize every Instance is Checked

see if they show in the schedule now....

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franciane_pereira9Z2WH
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I changed the revit language. And I checked the options but it still doesn't show the rooms.

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hmunsell
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When you go to place a new Room, are those rooms listed in the Room: drop down list in the options bar?

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At this point I would probably need the file to look at it. Those are most of the tricks I know to find Rooms/Spaces in a model.  would you be able to upload the Revit model for us to look at?

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franciane_pereira9Z2WH
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Yes, I can. But I send it here or send the file in your private chat?

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hmunsell
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you can post it to the chat. that's fine :-).  that way others can see it too and provide input. 

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franciane_pereira9Z2WH
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Here is the file mentioned above.
Thank you very much.

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Fount it!

 

in the IFC file it gives you the Element ID. from the manage ribbon you can pick Select by ID and put that number in and find it. 

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In this case it appears to be referring to an Area that is placed in the model. 

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i feel bad about not catching that earlier 😂... .it says right there in your screen capture ( 'COZ, AREA 4: )

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franciane_pereira9Z2WH
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But it is correct that they appear with the ifcSpace key after exporting the file.
How do you activate this search by id within revit, please?

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hmunsell
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Manage ribbon > Select By ID

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enter the Element ID

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Pick Show or OK.  "Show" will sometimes throw an error that there are not good views, but OK will at least find it for you. 

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franciane_pereira9Z2WH
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I'm sorry, I didn't express myself very well above. It is correct that 'COZ. Area' appears as an ifcSpace key after exporting the file?

Thank you for helping me.

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hmunsell
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I'm not as familiar with IFC keys as I should be. if you search the IFC for "room" nothing shows up. If I remember correct, IFC refers to all that stuff (Rooms, MEP Spaces, Areas) as "spaces".  

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