Hidden room tags

[AidanHawkins]

I have different all types that I have created hidden somewhere

When i go to place a room it tells me it already exists...

Anyone know where I could look to find more information on room tags that are existing to try and show them again

Thanks

Aidan

[rxi.gg · Accepted solution]

The best way to manage rooms is by creating a room schedule. There you can see all rooms in the project and you can delete those you want

[barthbradley]

Just a point of clarification: Room Schedules are Phase specific.  If Rooms are in different Phases, you would need to toggle the "Phase" that the Schedule is reporting. Unfortunately, Room Schedules have no Phase Filter, such as "None" or "Show All". 

[wisedrawing]

Well here's a hint for those who messed it up like me.

lost all my room tags and they were placed and were in the room schedule, so I knew they were somewhere

but my floor plan did not show them - all other tags were showing

Visibility Graphics VG showed everything ticked

view ranges, range views all fine

reveal hidden views showed nothing

I had placed a ceiling and therefore selected all and picked the ceiling and hid it - but that did NOT change anything.

turns out I placed a ceiling in floor plan view and it went in at floor plan view and therefore covered the floor.

The ceiling was showing on hidden elements as green but that meant it was still covering the room tags

its seems that even if you hide a ceiling that is on the floor it will still hide the room tags

revealing hidden elements will not show up what is under the ceiling

slightly embarrassing but it might help someone else

[ToanDN]

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@wisedrawing wrote:

turns out I placed a ceiling in floor plan view and it went in at floor plan view and therefore covered the floor.

Placing a ceiling in the floor plan view is not the issue, set the Height Offset from Level = 0 is the issue.

[wisedrawing]

I set it to the level CL offset 0 then its fine and fixed it

at floor plan offset 0 its on the floor and over the tags, yes??

I didn't mean I was placing the ceiling in the floor plan was specifically the issue, but by default, unless I specified it to CL then it will put in right on the floor

obviously that means I also could have put it in at Floor Plan level offset 2700 too - as the CL is at 2700

Is that what you mean?

[ToanDN]

If you create dedicated level for ceiling then yes you do need to open a floor plan view or a ceiling plan view of that level to draw the ceiling.  Off topic but adding levels just for ceilings is not really necessary.  What if you have different ceiling heights, do you add multiple levels?

[wisedrawing]

Yes I like to set up as levels CL1 CL2 etc as if in the design phase the CL changes then everything attached to it moves up or down.

I am always interested in how others do it and standard protocols however, as I am here to learn

cheers

[ToanDN]

https://www.revitforum.org/node/30374

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/new-level-vs-duplicate-offset/td-p/10826425

[wisedrawing]

wow can of worms for me now

So all the walls are therefore unconnected?

that means if my ceiling height changes with design (client or builder decided after days of design work they want a 3.0m ceiling in placed of a 2.7m ceiling) I have to change the wall height and anything else connected to it (like a verandah wall plate etc. )  right now all I do is enter the new ceiling level and everything goes up with it in one key strike?

what am I missing there to make this work quickly without a CL?

or do  I use a reference plane as the ceiling level? - but in checking that now it does not allow for it?? there's no drop down for reference planes for the wall constraints

[ToanDN]

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@wisedrawing wrote:

wow can of worms for me now

So all the walls are therefore unconnected?

that means if my ceiling height changes with design (client or builder decided after days of design work they want a 3.0m ceiling in placed of a 2.7m ceiling) I have to change the wall height and anything else connected to it (like a verandah wall plate etc. )  right now all I do is enter the new ceiling level and everything goes up with it in one key strike?

what am I missing there to make this work quickly without a CL?

or do  I use a reference plane as the ceiling level?

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Generally, walls attach to bottom of decks (floors), not ceilings.  What sort of ceilings are you talking about?  

By the way, there are no hard rules.  I gave a few insights from other people using Revit and the consensus is NOT create levels for ceilings, read through them and weight the cons vs the pros and make your call.

[wisedrawing]

they would have to connect to the roof pitching point level - which would be the ceiling level too?

so the pitching point of the top plate of the wall (top of wall) is also the ceiling level and bottom of the truss chord as the ceiling level - all the same. 

I am very interested in your take on it; the forum keeps me more in line with protocol as when I was ACAD I was a total rogue with no rules at all.

I think I am getting it as my brain stuff is thinking it through

perhaps my new level should be top plate as sometimes if I drop the ceiling then its no longer the wall height

mmmm

cheers

[ToanDN]

What you show is more like bottom of structure, so I can see a level for that is not unreasonable, though I would not personally add it.

[wisedrawing]

but what constraint would you put on the wall height?

how would you address the wall height with or without constraints?

just interested how you would control the wall top

[ToanDN]

For that specific condition, I would attach the top of wall to the ceiling.

[Odwen]

It seems the architect has added rooms without proper bounding walls, which is causing issues. Could you ask them to add rooms with bounding walls. When placing a room, using the "Room" tool and hovering over the spaces in the model, the tool should let the room interior automatically take the boundaries of the surrounding walls.