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New level vs. duplicate/offset

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Anonymous
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New level vs. duplicate/offset

Hi.

 

Sometimes I think about whether the way I do it is the right one or if I could improve in some way. It may seem like a beginner question.

How do you work with levels?

 

Do you only have like 3 levels.

Basement, Ground floor and first floor, and when you create a ceiling,  then you make an offset from the level or do you create a ceiling level.

Like an associated level or new one.

 

Im using a wall for structual foundation, when I need to adjust the depth of the foundation, I think its easier to adjust the level, insted of the selecting all the walls and adjust the offset.


Hope you will share your experiences or maybe the correct solution

 

 

 

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kadmonkee
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

it would vary based on the project.

I typically create levels for any instance that may benefit me in my modeling.

it is easier for me to CREATE a new level as needed than t oguess or assume my offset distances if something was to change.

Top of Steel, Pipe, Duct etc for clash allowance (detection)

Bottom of Steel Pipe, Duct etc.

Ceiling levels help in specific instances but are not really necessary, more of a convenience to some.

Grade

Top of Foundation

Top of Deck / Porch

Recessed Floor 

First Floor

Raised Floor

Mezzanine

Second Floor

Knee Wall Height

Roof.

some examples that have been used in the past.

it is a preference based on project complexity.

Families may have a built in offset from level so that might be another consideration






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RDAOU
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

@Anonymous 

 

I will only answer your key questions

 

  • Title Question: Create New or Similar then use Pick tool

 


@Anonymous wrote:

Hi.

Sometimes I think about whether the way I do it is the right one or if I could improve in some way. It may seem like a beginner question.

How do you work with levels? 

3 main levels per Building Story

  • Finish FLoor Level (Set as Building Story)
  • Top of Structural Slab (not Building Story)
  • Bottom of Structural Slab (not Building Story)
RDAOU_0-1639667751755.png

 

Do you only have like 3 levels.

Basement, Ground floor and first floor, and when you create a ceiling,  then you make an offset from the level or do you create a ceiling level. Like an associated level or new one.

You do not need a level Datum for ceilings/suspended ceiling. you can create Ceiling Plans from the Finish Floor Level Looking UP 

  • Remember: Adding too many unnecessary levels may mess up the visibility and graphics of plan views and mess up quantification 

 

Im using a wall for structual foundation, when I need to adjust the depth of the foundation, I think its easier to adjust the level, insted of the selecting all the walls and adjust the offset.

An infinite NO!! Once you set the levels up you do not change them just for the sake of increasing depth or height. That will mess things up for everyone else. Use one of the following

  • Either Top/Base Offsets (You can associate these to global parameters)
    • Misc 3.gif
  • Or Attach base/Top of the wall to a reference Planes  (then you could adjust the walls via the reference planes) 
    • Misc 2.gif


Hope you will share your experiences or maybe the correct solution

 

 

 


 

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barthbradley
als Antwort auf: Anonymous


@Anonymous wrote:

when I need to adjust the depth of the foundation, I think its easier to adjust the level, insted of the selecting all the walls and adjust the offset.

 


 

Huh?  "Adjust the Level" to adjust the "depth of the foundation"?  That doesn't compute. What do you mean by "depth"?  

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ToanDN
als Antwort auf: Anonymous


@Anonymous wrote:

Hi.

 

Sometimes I think about whether the way I do it is the right one or if I could improve in some way. It may seem like a beginner question.

How do you work with levels?

 

Do you only have like 3 levels.

Basement, Ground floor and first floor, and when you create a ceiling,  then you make an offset from the level or do you create a ceiling level.

Like an associated level or new one.

I do not create Levels for ceilings because ceiling heights varies.  If a certain ceiling type needs to be at a specific elevation then I assign a Global parameter to Offset value for consistency.

 

Im using a wall for structual foundation, when I need to adjust the depth of the foundation, I think its easier to adjust the level, insted of the selecting all the walls and adjust the offset.

If the bottom of foundation walls / top of spread footing are at the same elevation then I can see it makes sense.


Hope you will share your experiences or maybe the correct solution

 

 

 


 

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RSomppi
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Levels have a bigger purpose than something to host to. Limiting them to just the building levels is considered best practice. Too many makes a mess out of a project on many "levels". (Pun intended.)

 

Use named reference plains for intermediary offsets like ceilings.

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Thanks for all your feedback, and sharing your experiences. I will in the future, try some of the the solutions.

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lucia.lapusneanu
als Antwort auf: RDAOU

Thanks for sharing, good to know about  Reference Planes, never used it, totaly makes sense.

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