This software is crap

[riccardo.bartolucci]

All references of future feature are lost after changing a previous sketch.

As result I keep fixing problems instead of producing a result.

Thanks

[Anonymous]

Dear AutoDesk Execs,

I have been using Fusion 360 for a couple of years and thought it was an insane bargain for free! But, are you kidding me? $60 a month? yep, it was cool. I just bought Vcarve ( forever)! And I guess I'll go back to sketch-up for 3d printing.  Shame on you AutoDesk, If I had known I was going to spend all my time answering your questions and helping you develop your software so that I would have to start over in a few years... I would have not got involved in your social experiment.

You had a promising Maker Software going, got greedy, and tried to screw the folks who were with you for the development.I suggest you come up with a realistic monthly subscription price for hobbyist? Something higher than free, but well south of $60 a month.  All my friends are talking about other solutions. You have us trained and on the hook. But $60 a month to play with our toys on the weekends? Nope!

You might want check how many users you are going to lose with your new pricing structure.  You also might want to check how many of your guys on YouTube who have been pushing your product are going to get hit.

Bait and Switch is Fraud! I'm sure your attorneys made sure your EULA covered this, but your users are going to be pissed.  You will figure it out, and I might be wrong, you might grab the market share. 

Bye. Bye,

SaltyGator

[daniel_lyall]

Have you ever asked for help with whatever is not working for you???????, and V carve costs more than fusion ( and is a different type of program) upfront and the updates cost extra per update most times it is $300 to $400 I have aspire and Vcarve Pro.

[TrippyLighting]

For personal, non commercial use Fusion 360 is still free and always has been. The free subscription simply has to be renewed each year. That has not changed with the new pricing structure!

For commercial use Fusion 360 is by far the least expensive CAD software on the market and particularly with the included, fully integrated CAM solution provides unmatched bang for the buck and many hobbyists have purchased full licenses.

The only thing that has received a major change is the Startup License. Previously one simply selected this and was grated free commercial use, however, apparently  many folks took undue advantage of the honor system and now to be able to use Fusion 360 commercially as a Startup users have to go through an approval process. That sounds pretty fair to me!

I would also ask what questions you have answered and through what means you propose to have helped developed this software ?  This forum is the main alleyway to interact with the developers and you have made exactly one post!

Before you reply with another uniformed post let me clarify that as an Autodesk Expert Elite I am NOT an Autodesk employee. I am a paying customer!

[chrisplyler]

What @TrippyLighting  said.

And, even if you are not eligible for free use of F360 under the new structure...

...getting something for FREE for a while, and then no longer getting it for free, is not getting screwed. Sheesh, the entitlement in the world these days!

Like, for purposes of the discussion, let's suppose you receive Welfare. That's the taxpayers having decided to help you out. If it later is reduced or stopped, that doesn't mean you got screwed. That means you got free help for a while. If you THINK it's getting screwed, then you were taking your free help for granted and think the taxpayers owe it to you or something.

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for free use of F360. But if/when I don't get it anymore, I'll be grateful for the free use I had gotten. And if the price they ask of me is higher than I want to pay, I'll complain about that and quit using it, but in no way will I think I got screwed somehow.

[Anonymous]

Totally agree, there are way too many bugs and to get around them it just takes time and money. I am very disappointed. 

[Anonymous]

I agree   ,,,   Fusion 360 is garbage...

Every time I open it,, it is so frustrating!!!

99% of the time I end-up using some other software.      The On-line portion is one of my fist problem. 

[etfrench]

It will remain your problem only if you can't give any details about why it's a problem.

[daniel_lyall]

@Anonymous There are people in here that will help you, you just need to ask some will do one on one with you.

[Anonymous]

This software is a CRAP.

I wanted a different software for designing objects for 3D printing than Blender, unfortunately I was disappointed that there is no clear and native support for global and local coordinates. Too bad Autodesk has developed software worse for precise 3D modeling than Blender. I can't imagine how anyone can pay for this software.

[dieselguy65]

It couldn't possibly be you?
This software i have found its very easy to use and learn.
And has never failed to allow my to finish my projects i design using it.

Maybe, you haven't put any effort into the learning and basics.

Advanced software will never be, simple, to use.
It wouldn't be advanced if it was

[Anonymous]

I have been using AutoCAD for 10 years and when I compare it with Fusion 360, AutoCAD is much more user-friendly and does not lack logic. It's the same with Blender.
When I want to move an object, I expect the movement to be based on either the local coordinates of the object or the global ones.
Fusion 360 is definitely not user-friendly software. I'm glad they don't want the money to try it out.

[davebYYPCU]

Rant if you wish, not going to make a difference.

You have no obligation to use the software.

Show us a problem - most will show you an answer.

[dieselguy65]

So you just came here to rant about your inability to use a software.

Show an example of where your frustration lies. 

There Are plenty here offering free help 

[etfrench]

Sounds like you haven't noticed the settings in the Move command:

[daniel_lyall]

@Anonymous It does not work like AutoCAD so you have to forget about Autocad when using fusion, at the moment I am mentoring an Autocad user to use fusion He said the same thing about moving stuff the other day a few other programs have the same thing.

So it is you not fusion.

[ca.caceres]

I confirm, unstable and crappy software.

[Anonymous]

I couldn't agree more. Autodesk always had software problems, see original Autocad. Try to find a drawing you saved after a day on it in the 80s.. Fusion is a mixture of Becker 3D and any other sort of free or at least apparently ownerless software mixed with bits of clunky Inventor, or so it seems to me. Even Inventor doesn't need six weeks of construction lines until I can drill a round hole on a tilted plane. Fusion is NOT ripe for sale and in the form it is, I don't see that it ever will (or can) be. Intuitive? LOL. Shabby comments about using SW if you don't like Fusion are beside the point and certainly not professional, either. 

User of Inventor before Autodesk bought it. Doesn't say much but that or SW and Inventor 2021 at least lets itself be installed without us copying the Autodesk server content on ours.  Price? If I want luxury, I buy a Rolls-Royce. If not, I can buy a skateboard. Both should function correctly, shouldn't it? Fusion doesn't.   There are courses you can do that teach program writing it will only take about 5 years to get good at it then a good 10000 years to get a good cad cam program done but I don't like the way you are going with it so I will go with feature cam. 

[TheCADWhisperer]

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@Anonymous wrote:

User of Inventor before Autodesk bought it. 

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@Anonymous 

Autodesk didn't purchase Inventor.

It was developed in-house from blank sheet.

Exactly what issues are you experiencing?

[etfrench]

You're right.  It's impossible to design anything in Fusion 360.

[Anonymous]

First issue: prevent some clown for changing your mail; the last sentence in my last message is not from me. This clown be said:  He evidently  doesn't know what programming is. My first profi software was on an Intel 4004. Programmed with PO-switches. Start-up was PDP 8 followed by PDP 9. Telemac (French) followed, this time with the bootstrap on punched tape and a FAX printer as monitor.. Luxury without end. Even had 1Kb RAM (erm storage)

Issue II. Talking of software and Inventor: who wrote Inventor at Autodesk, then?  I don't believe it, sorry.  How about XXXX House, then? It can't be the same as those who write Fusion... Talking to Autodesk experts in ca. 2001, I thought I was talking to some of Gates's gormless mob. Autodesk couldn't believe I would refuse to allow our Uni's server group to be completely re-programmed so that Inventor 6 would function on it.

Issue III. Fusion cannot be used for profi construction, if for anything usable at all. Forget Autodesks usual problem with saving (and retrieving) files in any sort of logical manner, you can't apply normal CAD logical at all most of the time. Millions of clicks to tell you the wrong fault. I've tried to work out Fusion for weeks, including Videos, expert (hah!) advice and books. I've given up, completely defeated. I'd start buying Inventor again but the price is too high. SW has its faults but if I can't get Inventor at a sensible price, so be it. I don't know why I'd still use Inventor otherwise. Probably better the devil you know. And twent years of Inventor doesn't go by without scars.

So, Autodesk: Please, please try to save what could be saved. At least the idea of Fusion was not wrong.