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AutoCAD LT - Duplicate definition of block ignored

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Message 1 of 37
apstevenson
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AutoCAD LT - Duplicate definition of block ignored

This is the message I get:

 

Command: Duplicate definition of block brace ignored.
Substituting [simplex.shx] for [hsimplex.shx].
Substituting [simplex.shx] for [hsimplex.shx].

 

I have one drawing open, and my Design Centre open on the 'Open Drawings' tab and I'm trying to drag a block from there into my drawing but keep getting this message.

 

It works fine for other drawings (dragging a block 'into its own drawing') so I can't work out what the problem is.

 

Thanks.

 

[ The subject line of this post has been edited for clarity by @handjonathan Original: Duplicate definition of block ignored ]

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Message 2 of 37
hwalker
in reply to: apstevenson

That message means there is already a block in that drawing with that name.

 

Use PURGE to get rid of the block and then the duplicate message will disappear

 

The substituting message appears because it cannot find the hsimplex file so it's using simplex instead

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Message 3 of 37
apstevenson
in reply to: hwalker

I've tried that without success.

There is a block in there with that name, but it's the same block. I'm just try to drag an instance of it from the design centre.
Message 4 of 37
hwalker
in reply to: apstevenson

As I and you have just said there is already a block in that drawing.

 

If there is already a block in there and you drag from design centre you will get that message.

 

Is the block your dragging an updated block? If so just right click on the block and choose REDEFINE.

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Message 5 of 37
pendean
in reply to: apstevenson

In your file, rename the block BRACE to something else then try to insert it again, see what happens.
Message 6 of 37
apstevenson
in reply to: pendean

same thing:

 

Command: Duplicate definition of block brace ignored.
Substituting [simplex.shx] for [hsimplex.shx].
Substituting [simplex.shx] for [hsimplex.shx].
Command: RENAME
1 Block renamed
Command: Duplicate definition of block brace 02 ignored.
Substituting [simplex.shx] for [hsimplex.shx].
Substituting [simplex.shx] for [hsimplex.shx].
Command:
Command:

Message 7 of 37
pendean
in reply to: apstevenson

Your file may be corrupt then or has been touched by a vertical version of AutoCAD: fix it with these methods
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/AutoCA...
and this http://blogs.rand.com/support/2011/03/how-to-remove-the-aecproxy-intelligence-from-your-drawing-file...
OR insert it into a working template file and see if other errors start to materialize.
Message 8 of 37
apstevenson
in reply to: pendean

Thanks for the reply. I've worked through about half the suggestions with no luck. I'll report back when I've tried them all.

Message 9 of 37
Emmsleys
in reply to: apstevenson

Hi @apstevenson

 

Following up on your thread, if you have any other issues or concerns feel free to post back in the thread. 

 

Thanks. 



Sarah Emmsley
Technical Support Specialist

Message 10 of 37
Emmsleys
in reply to: apstevenson

@apstevenson

 

Feel free to post back should you have any other questions, or please select Accept as Solution if any post in this thread resolves your issue, or reply with additional information if the problem persists.



Sarah Emmsley
Technical Support Specialist

Message 11 of 37
User_2011
in reply to: Emmsleys

Same to me: copy to clipboard a block from a drawing and paste to another drawing is giving me:

 

Command: _pasteclip Duplicate definition of block _ArchTick ignored.
Duplicate definition of block STUB-DOWN ignored.

 

The block name is STUB-DOWN and it has nothing to do with _ArchTick.

I figured that if I copy a nonannotative block and paste into a drawing where the block is defined annotative, doesn't work.

This is probably on 'wish list'.

 

Thank you and good luck!

Message 12 of 37
pendean
in reply to: User_2011

_ARCHTICK is a dimension block which cannot be deleted unless you remove the dimension style from your drawing.

You can try these tips https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-lt-forum/duplicate-definition-of-block-archtick-ignored/m-p/5...
and
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-lt-forum/pasteclip-duplicate-definition-of-block-archtick-ign...
Message 13 of 37
cadffm
in reply to: User_2011

The block name is STUB-DOWN and it has nothing to do with _ArchTick.

Upload your source file and we will see.

 

I figured that if I copy an annotative block and paste into a drawing where the block is defined nonannotative, doesn't work.

If you mean paste from clipboard (ctrl+v) it is normal because the BLOCK is nonannotative.

Copy&Paste copy only your Blockreference, not your Block(definition).

 

If you want to use the new (other) Blockdefinition you have to re-define the Block in target file.

For example with DC (Designcenter), open sourcefile, choose your Block and right-mouse-click for contextmenu ->

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Message 14 of 37
Anonymous
in reply to: apstevenson

Try checking the layer of the block you are pasting. It might have been 'off'.

Message 15 of 37
nemoiulian
in reply to: apstevenson

Sorry in advance for sharing my frustration with this, but I've been working with CAD for over 10 years and all blocks gave me are conflicts, errors and crashes, and in 2019 they are still as useless and a nuisance to me. Anyway, I just want to paste some lines, it should not be that hard. 

My drawings that I want to paste are made up of hundreds of blocks and I can't rename hundreds of blocks (no batch rename option), this is useless. Anybody know a practical way to do this? 

Thank you

 

 

 

 

Message 16 of 37
steven-g
in reply to: nemoiulian

You would be much better off starting a new thread, so people aren't reading through all the comments here, to find out it has nothing to do with your question.

And explain exactly what your problem is, if possible with example dwg files and screenshots to explain the situation. For example, how does wanting to paste 'lines' have anything to do with renaming blocks?

Message 17 of 37
RobDraw
in reply to: nemoiulian


@nemoiulian wrote:

I've been working with CAD for over 10 years and all blocks gave me are conflicts, errors and crashes, and in 2019 they are still as useless and a nuisance to me.


 

I couldn't even imagine not being able to work without blocks and still be productive. 

 

Why haven't you learned how to address these issues and use them properly?


Rob

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Message 18 of 37
nemoiulian
in reply to: steven-g

A new thread on the same error message I thought would not go well. 

Anyway, here is the simplest example I have: in the copy screencast I have these lines that I created in layers that I created, no blocks. In the paste screencast I try to paste those lines in a received file that contains blocks and it doesn't paste anything while giving me those "duplicate definition.." messages.

Also, if I try pasting the received drawing (with blocks) in a fresh file it just doesn't paste anything, no messages in the command line.

Hope this is clear enough.

Thank you

Message 19 of 37
steven-g
in reply to: nemoiulian

You have given us a jpg image of a screencast why not the link to the screencast so we can watch it? We really need to see the dwg files to see what is going on, a line doesn't have a block definition. So it sounds as though you are selecting blocks. And yes a new post is important because although you may get the same error, the OP was talking about using Design Centre to insert blocks and your problem isn't caused by that scenario so it just gets confusing when trying to read back through this post, any suggestions made earlier just don't relate to your problem.

Message 20 of 37
nemoiulian
in reply to: steven-g

 


@steven-g wrote:

You have given us a jpg image of a screencast why not the link to the screencast so we can watch it?


Because I don't know how to do that. When I have the time I'll find out and start a new thread.

Thank you

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