Plotting MTEXT to PDF produces huge file size

[Anonymous]

I am using Civil 3D 2019 (autocad 2018).  I have a file with a large amount of MTEXT. 

The original data source for the MTEXT is PDF files, which were saved back to MS Word .docx format using Bluebeam PDF.  The converted .docx file has a file size of 329 KB.

I had to use the pastespec command due to some formatting issues in the .docx file, which were not apparent until the text was pasted into the MTEXT editor.  After doing this, the resulting .dwg file (containing around 90 layouts) is around 2.3 MB. 

However, when I plot back PDF using any of several PDF plot devices, the resulting PDF file is around 150 MB. The sheets containing the MTEXT are definitely the culprit, with each of those sheets having a file size of around 7-8 MB. 

[Anonymous]

I am using Civil 3D 2019 (autocad 2018).  I have a file with a large amount of MTEXT. 

The original data source for the MTEXT is PDF files, which were saved back to MS Word .docx format using Bluebeam PDF.  The converted .docx file has a file size of 329 KB.

I had to use the pastespec command due to some formatting issues in the .docx file, which were not apparent until the text was pasted into the MTEXT editor.  After doing this, the resulting .dwg file (containing around 90 layouts) is around 2.3 MB. 

However, when I plot back PDF using any of several PDF plot devices, the resulting PDF file is around 150 MB. The sheets containing the MTEXT are definitely the culprit, with each of those sheets having a file size of around 7-8 MB. 

[pendean]

BLUEBEAM support is over here https://support.bluebeam.com/

[pendean]

BLUEBEAM support is over here https://support.bluebeam.com/

[Anonymous]

It's not a Bluebeam issue

[Anonymous]

It's not a Bluebeam issue

[pendean]

Did I misunderstand the problem?
You have a PDF from an unknown source.
You use BLUEBEAM to convert to docx (MSWord) file.
docx (MSWord) files are huge.
When you copy/paste from there into C3D the DWG files and resulting PDFs go crazy big.

And you yourself state the problem is the source PDFs. How is this a C3D problem?

A test to remove formatting:
Copy/Paste your text from our docx files into WIndows Notepad and save as TXT files. Fome there copy/paste into C3D, does you new PDF printing creation go away?

Is your PDF driver set to export the text AS GEOMETRY or as searchable text?

[pendean]

Did I misunderstand the problem?
You have a PDF from an unknown source.
You use BLUEBEAM to convert to docx (MSWord) file.
docx (MSWord) files are huge.
When you copy/paste from there into C3D the DWG files and resulting PDFs go crazy big.

And you yourself state the problem is the source PDFs. How is this a C3D problem?

A test to remove formatting:
Copy/Paste your text from our docx files into WIndows Notepad and save as TXT files. Fome there copy/paste into C3D, does you new PDF printing creation go away?

Is your PDF driver set to export the text AS GEOMETRY or as searchable text?

[Anonymous]

The .docx file is only 329 KB, as stated in my post.  When the text from the .docx file is pasted into the MTEXT editor, the resulting file size (2.3 MB for the entire 90 layout file) is also not abnormally large. When that .dwg file is plotted from autocad using various PDF plotters, the sheets containing this MTEXT are abnormally large (7-8 MB).

[Anonymous]

The .docx file is only 329 KB, as stated in my post.  When the text from the .docx file is pasted into the MTEXT editor, the resulting file size (2.3 MB for the entire 90 layout file) is also not abnormally large. When that .dwg file is plotted from autocad using various PDF plotters, the sheets containing this MTEXT are abnormally large (7-8 MB).

[Anonymous]

I was including the information concerning the source of the MTEXT and its inherent formatting issues because I suspect this may not be a pure autocad issue.

[Anonymous]

I was including the information concerning the source of the MTEXT and its inherent formatting issues because I suspect this may not be a pure autocad issue.

[alex101000]

For verification: copy the text from the Word to the Notepad and copy from it and paste it into AutoCAD (remove excess formatting and control characters) from it?

[alex101000]

For verification: copy the text from the Word to the Notepad and copy from it and paste it into AutoCAD (remove excess formatting and control characters) from it?

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

>> PDF files, which were saved back to MS Word .docx format using

>> Bluebeam PDF.  The converted .docx file

Why not importing the PDF into AutoCAD (instead of PDF ==> Bluebeam ==> DocX ==> Word ==> copy & paste)

- alfred -

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

>> PDF files, which were saved back to MS Word .docx format using

>> Bluebeam PDF.  The converted .docx file

Why not importing the PDF into AutoCAD (instead of PDF ==> Bluebeam ==> DocX ==> Word ==> copy & paste)

- alfred -

[pendean]

329kb is a large docx file size.

7-8MB PDF sizes for a sheet of nothing but words in AutoCAD is normal if your PDF driver is set to print text AS GRAPHICS.

Which PDF driver are you using? How is it set to to handle text?

Did you try the NOTEPAD fix to remove your MSWord formatting? Might help, but it will not change the reality of 7-8mB PDF file size of a sheet of nothing but words from AutoCAD if your PDF driver is mishandling the text objects.

[pendean]

329kb is a large docx file size.

7-8MB PDF sizes for a sheet of nothing but words in AutoCAD is normal if your PDF driver is set to print text AS GRAPHICS.

Which PDF driver are you using? How is it set to to handle text?

Did you try the NOTEPAD fix to remove your MSWord formatting? Might help, but it will not change the reality of 7-8mB PDF file size of a sheet of nothing but words from AutoCAD if your PDF driver is mishandling the text objects.

[Anonymous]

Backtracking a few posts on your suggestions:

* I tried pasting into .txt document and then cut/pasting into MTEXT editor and plotting via DWG to PDF.pc3. It does not affect the resulting PDF size (still 7-8 MB per sheet)
* The plot device is not set to export text as geometry
* I was not importing as a PDF due to (among other reasons) the excess amount of whitespace created on the sheets
I have routinely been able to produce these sheets in the past suing the same methodology with a resulting file size of around 500 KB per sheet.
thanks

[Anonymous]

Backtracking a few posts on your suggestions:

* I tried pasting into .txt document and then cut/pasting into MTEXT editor and plotting via DWG to PDF.pc3. It does not affect the resulting PDF size (still 7-8 MB per sheet)
* The plot device is not set to export text as geometry
* I was not importing as a PDF due to (among other reasons) the excess amount of whitespace created on the sheets
I have routinely been able to produce these sheets in the past suing the same methodology with a resulting file size of around 500 KB per sheet.
thanks

[Anonymous]

As a test, I created a full sheet of generic (manually typed) MTEXT and the resulting sheet size was 600 KB.

[Anonymous]

As a test, I created a full sheet of generic (manually typed) MTEXT and the resulting sheet size was 600 KB.

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

The issue was apparently due to the text oblique angle of 15 degrees.  Resetting the oblique angle to zero and using italicized text within the MTEXT editor yields a PDF plot size of around 200 MB. Weird.

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

The issue was apparently due to the text oblique angle of 15 degrees.  Resetting the oblique angle to zero and using italicized text within the MTEXT editor yields a PDF plot size of around 200 MB. Weird.

[pendean]

Thanks for the solution: we never use that oblique option here.

[pendean]

Thanks for the solution: we never use that oblique option here.