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Drawing should inherit filename from its main model (usually 1st view), regardless of the selection in Copy Design

Drawing should inherit filename from its main model (usually 1st view), regardless of the selection in Copy Design

Greetings.

 

Expected result:

Drawing should inherit filename from its main model (usually 1st view), regardless of the selection in Copy Design.

 

Current result:

If we have several models on the drawing, drawing will inherit the filename from the first selected model in Copy Desing, which causes wrong numbering between main model and its drawing.

 

See the attached images. Arrow indicates selecting order.

1 - Original structure --> How it looks like before copying.

2 - Correct copying --> If we select models from top to bottom, numbering of the drawing is OK.

3 - Incorrect copying --> If we select models from bottom to top, numbering of the drawing is NOT OK.

 

 

Best regards,

Rene Repina

7 Comments
ReneRepina
Collaborator

Sorry, I forgot to attach the images.

 

1 - Original structure.png

2 - Correct copying.png

3 - Incorrect copying.png

   

ihayesjr
Community Manager

@ReneRepina 

Thank you for posting the idea. In your example, what name did the drawing get?

Did you have the Link Drawing with Model turned on?

ReneRepina
Collaborator

Greetings @ihayesjr.

 

You are welcome.

I posted the images above. Can you see them?

 

  1. In original, IAM and IDW have same filename "VLT-036651".
  2. In correct copy example, IAM and IDW have the same filename "VLT-151250".
  3. In incorrect copy example, IAM and IDW do NOT have the same filename, which should be "VLT-151258" (this is IAM filename), but drawing has a filename from some part (which is on the drawing and child of IAM), which is VLT-151255.

 

Yes, we have this option, because we want that models and drawings have the same name (as is also Autodesk recommendation).

 

 

Best regards,

Rene Repina

ihayesjr
Community Manager

@ReneRepina 

How did you get the second image to work and not the third?

ReneRepina
Collaborator

Greetings @ihayesjr.

 

Like I explained in the description and indicated on the images. Selecting order has the impact. If you select assembly first and after its child, drawing is gonna have correct filename (from assembly). If you select childs first then assembly, drawing is gonna have wrong filename (from first selected child, which is on drawing).

ihayesjr
Community Manager

@ReneRepina 

There may be scenarios where the first model listed is not the "main model" to get the new name from. How would you resolve this scenario?

ReneRepina
Collaborator

Greetings @ihayesjr.

 

I understand you. My comments below.

 

  1. In V2020, first model on the drawing, was the main model.
  2. In V2020, we had these problems, when user did not put correct model on, causing wrong data in Titleblock. User had to fix it manually (re-arrange the views, so "main view" was the "first one"). User also had to "rename" the drawing in Vault to correct model filename.
  3. I did not test it much in V2023, because it is now available to choose "not the first view" to be the "main view".
  4. Since selecting "main view" is now possible in V2023, you do not have to watch for "first view", but for "main view" and link drawing with it.
  5. Users will more likely to made a mistake when selecting in copy design than putting wrong main view on the drawing. And for normal users, it is harder to fix it in Vault (rename, ...) than to select (or re-arrange) proper "main view" on the drawing.

 

So to answer you specifically on your question. In V2023, I would not look for "first view", but for "main view".

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