Beam Systems - Can Shared Parameters Act Like Worksets?

[ianpM59BG]

Hiya All,

I'm trying to control visibility of Beam Systems, AND the individual Beams within the system, all with one Shared Parameter in our projects. We already use a shared parameter to hide walls and posts coming down from above if they're not important for the framing level we're working with, but some beam systems need to be hidden/filtered out as well, and when I apply the Shared Parameter to the Beam System, it hides the beam system, but all joists in the system don't have the parameter so I have to select all those and add the parameter to them as well. 

I know this works with Worksets, where a Beam System gets assigned to a workset, and then all the beams inside the system also get that assignment, so view filters on worksets work well, but that means the project needs to be workshared and different project managers have different opinions on whether a project should be workshared or not. So it would be nice to find a way to get a shared parameter to work like Workset assignments.

See Below for a picture of what I'm looking for - I have a Shared Parameter on a whole bunch of framing family types, Level, and I can assign it to the beam system, but it doesn't pass that assignment to the beams inside the system like a Workset would. 

Probably there's no fix for this but I figured I'd ask in case anyone else does this/has done this.

[jay_colcombe]

No, it won't because the Beam System is the highest hierarchy level, and the beams are within said System, so Marks and Type Marks are Take from the System which are the Primary Parameters

You will manually have to select the Beams in the System and Apply this or remove the Beam System and Apply.

This is simple enough just Box Select > Filter (Contextual Tab) - you would need do this anyway manually to apply your Parameter

I would have just used a Filter with multiple rules and the aim is to utilise the Parameters already in place rather than manually adding new ones.

[ianpM59BG]

Jay,

Thanks, I'd appreciate your input then. How would you approach this case I'm working on now, using existing parameters and not using worksets?

I'm working on a building that has a truss roof system with multiple levels, so my view range has to be pretty large, AND there is interior framing for a mezzanine that is high enough that my view range sees that beam system as well. I want to make 2 framing plans, 1 for the mezzanine and 1 for the roof.

The ways I've approached this in the past are:
1) Hide the mezzanine framing in the roof plan - I don't like to Hide in View if I can help it, I'd rather filter.

2) Assign my Shared Parameter "Level" to the Mezzanine framing and filter that at the roof framing plan - Works, but I need to work harder to select all members in a beam system and label them.

3) Make the project workshared and set up worksets and visibility on my framing plans - The project manager doesn't want to do it that way

So, I'd be interested in your suggestion how to use a Filter with multiple rules to make this work. I see Reference level elevation and that could be useful but what would be really nice is if I could filter on the work plane. Your thoughts are welcome.

Thanks!