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I would be a blessing to have the stair tool more robust and full of parameters that allow one to create a detailed and exact staircase. Adding core and finish layers as you would in a wall. Determining the end conditions more precisely, with better control. The more detailing control the merrier.
Supports were a good add and its great that they can be unpinned and moved along the system, however they have bugs when it comes to grouped stairs. It would be helpful if revit generated the main pattern for the railing,then allowed the fine tune adjustments like unpining a balluster or post and letting the designer move it slightly and the pattern can be manipulated.
Thanks for your submission and votes on this idea! We are evaluating where this request falls into our roadmap and will provide an update when we have made a decision.
Not sure if this should be a comment to this or not (has to do with detailing control & making stairs "more professional", but not w/ modeling), so I made it a separate idea:
Stairs have been very difficult to work with in Revit so far and I've invested hours in workarounds when no obvious solution is available. There are even some bugs like railings not aligning with stringers after editing some minor element, not even changing geometry.
Stairs are very complicated so no specific wishes. Seems like the way stairs are approached needs a complete overhaul. I'd upvote 100 if I could!!
I will like stairs to use real structural elements, we copy the stairs from the arch. model clean up and then model all the stringers with real structural elements, we are structural engineers office and we need to tag the stringers.
@Rivera-Artes I agree, it would be good to have the option to show the stringers like other framing elements, but we'd still wind up using Detail Lines for some of the sloping elements (as we do now, even when we also model them), because you can't always get a cutmark in to the proper location, or linework part of a beam.
I also have been nagging about a stair (and railings!!!) overhaul for years.
Currently I am starting to accept the fact that Autodesk's software engineers don't seem to be able to work it out as stairs are very complex geometries.
I would like to add support for stair and handrail revisions. It's hard to identify a starting point with improvement suggestions. I understand they are very complex, but generally speaking, anything outside a straight run is very difficult to model with any relative accuracy. This means
workarounds are needed a LARGE majority of the time, if not in every stair instance. Starting with allowing more INSTANCE BASED customization would be a huge improvement.
A few of the current problems to note:
Handrails rarely host correctly, especially with multi-level stairs.
When breaking a handrail into multiple rails to overcome the above, joining, extending slopes, and making turns are very difficult and next to impossible to achieve.
The flat/sloped override in handrail sections rarely works. Revit still does what it wants as far as sloping and making flat sections.
Handrail sketch lines constantly overlap when automatically applying a railing to multi-level stairs, so any small edit to the sketch lines will not allow the sketch to be "Finished". Then several handrail sections must be made, making for clunky connections between two sections.
Modifications of stair landing heights are next to impossible, requiring stairs to be completely remodeled in most instances, requiring the cumbersome handrails to be modified as well
There are many many more, but too much to list.
I think it would be more helpful to do a demonstration of how frustrating stair and handrail modelling is and where improvements would be needed.
"I think it would be more helpful to do a demonstration of how frustrating stair and handrail modelling is and where improvements would be needed."
@Anonymous It sounds like you should do a Screencast showing all the frustrating workarounds required to get what you want, then describe how you think it should happen. I've found it very helpful to do Screencasts for even the simplest support requests as the techs invariably come back with questions unless I explicitly repeat myself in video form (and sometimes even then). The effort required to make the Screencast will pay dividends if it convinces development of what needs to be changed...
Thanks for waiting for us to review this idea. While there is a lot to this idea, we have decided to accept it as is. As we have posted in our public roadmap, we are planning work on Multi-story stairs and railings in the future. While that might not capture everything about this idea, we wanted to say that we think the intent of this idea is good and that we think it is important to ensure it is on our roadmap. Thanks again for the submission and continue to vote and submit ideas!
I'm pleased say that with the Revit 2018 release of Revit we have released some significant functionality for Stairs that we think goes a long way to making Stairs easier to use and better overall. The new multi-story stairs function lets you connect stairs to the levels in your project and easily make changes. Check out the help for it here: http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2018/ENU/?guid=GUID-CCF34EC3-4AEB-466C-B730-F11A82A86450
We know that this feature does not address every comment and suggestion that has been submitted for this Idea, but we think it would be best to try and capture those suggestions separately now that we have changed the workflow for how stairs work. Please submit other ideas to the site and vote on them - your feedback is important to us.
Thanks for your continued feedback, ideas, and votes!
The 2018 changes to Multistorey Stairs and railings are very welcome, but it is only one of many significant problems that still exist with stairs and railings. However, the original intent of this request, and all the follow up comments referred to many other aspects of the problems with stairs and railings, not to multistorey stairs.
I take your point that we ought to capture the suggestions separately, and I will endeavour to comment on or initiate a series of new requests for each of the many items that are still an issue. However, I don't think it is fair and reasonable to say that the request to "Make stairs professional" has been implemented. All credit to the team who did implement a new method to handle Multistorey Stairs & Railings - it certainly seems to be well implemented (although I reserve final judgement when I try to use on a real project!).
I agree that the status is wrong, so I sent this to the moderators:
Since this idea was not actually "implemented" (nothing in the OP or comments had anything to do with multi-story stairs, nor have any of the posts "been developed and is now live in an Autodesk product" - from the description of "Implemented" status), the status should actually be changed to "Archived" since it's "not being considered for implementation at this time." and Autodesk's response is to "encourage [us] to rework and resubmit these ideas" (both part of the description for "Archived" status).
While it would be nice if Autodesk put together some kind of "focus group" of ACTUAL users to find out what we really need, I don't expect them to do that any time soon. Large changes are just not "on their radar" for the foreseeable future. Until then, if you can come up with SMALL PARTS of ideas of how to make stairs better, PLEASE create separate ideas and post them here. My idea got a bunch of votes recently, and I believe it's largely due to the traffic to this thread.
