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Submitted byAnonymouson07-09-201603:45 AM
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Revit for Mac
Please start producing REVIT for Mac. It is a must have application for architecture students and the mac industry occupies a huge part of the computer industry. We really need the software.
Olá Camila. Entendo que você gosta e deseja trabalhar com o Mac, mas quero compartilhar a experiência pessoal. O Mac Pro tem sido usado por meus colegas e o uso de Bootcamp tem atendido muito bem essa questão da necessidade de uso de software de Arquitetura/Engenharia.
Eu estava precisando atualizar meu laptop ( atual: Dell Precision M4800, 16 Gb RAM, Placa NVidia Quadro 2 GB, i7 com 2.7 GHz ) e fiz uma comparação de PERFORMANCE:
DELL x HP x MAC
A DELL lançou uma série nova: Precision 5520, e tem a mesma configuração do MAC ( SSD, 16 GB RAM, Xeon E3 c/ 3GHz, Placa vídeo 4 GB, bateria 12 hs, 1,75 kg ) e neste caso tem tela de 15". O modelo com tela de 13" pesa cerca de 1,4 Kg.
É mais barato que o MAC Pro.
Ou seja, apesar de ser muito legal ter um Mac, se você usa o laptop para trabalho com projeto de arquitetura e engenharia vai precisar rodar Windows, porque mesmo que consiga resolver o problema com um determinado software, haverão vários outros que precisarão do Windows para funcionar.
Felizmente ou não, quem está na Construção Civil tem que trabalhar com Windows.
Folks, this is never going to happen, not natively anyway. However, there is a way. We all need to lobby Autodesk to switch away from using proprietary Microsoft technologies fro graphics processing (ie Direct X) and move to a more open, vendor-independent platform such as OpenGL for example.
Once this is accomplished virtualisation solutions such as Parallels Desktop will be able to give us the graphical performance that we need.
I've been running Revit through Parallels for years now, granted on not very big projects, but the system is both very stable and performs reasonably well. As long as your VM is runnig off an SSD and you have lots of RAM in your computer you'll see good performance.
Now go and lobby Autodesk to switch away from DirectX. It will be waaaay easier, cheaper and actually better strategically in the long term.
I believe that a bounch of people have given the idea of create or generate the Revit Mac version. It will be great that we can have it. However, I have another idea of provide a online vertual desktop only for revit. Thus we are not necceary to have the PC version or Mac version. If we can run revit on your server and remotely control save, import, work and etc, it will be fantastic and blur the boundary of PC and Mac. I am a mac user. However virtual desktop did help with different platform.
I've been running Revit through Parallels for years now, granted on not very big projects, but the system is both very stable and performs reasonably well. As long as your VM is runnig off an SSD and you have lots of RAM in your computer you'll see good performance.
I have a late 2013 Mac Pro with D500 6 Core Xeon 64 gigs of memory. Revit is installed on a Thunderbolt SSD drive & All Files are on a separate Thunderbolt SSD drive. I am not sure what I see is good performance only that it is what we are used to seeing. I recently bought a laptop and Revit just smokes on it makes me want to cry why do you torture yourself. I am at a point where It might be best for me to kiss Revit goodbye and jump on the archicad train.
On another note:
I did run revit on another windows PC as a terminal service over crossover gigabit network, and had some fairly good results. However the workflow is not as good as Parallels. If I could get revit to work in a terminal service with coherence that would kick ass but still would not be as good as a "Mac Native Revit"
I use it on a 13 inch MacBook Pro from 2015 and works well with parellels at small project so I'm going to buy an 5k iMac wit i7 and 24gb ram and a 512gb sad
I use it on a 13 inch MacBook Pro from 2015 and works well with parellels at small project so I'm going to buy an 5k iMac wit i7 and 24gb ram and a 512gb sad
I guess If you do not know any better it works well, also small project is a matter of opinion. I would find 10,000 sq.ft. homes to be small projects. I thought it worked well till I got a new laptop that runs windows and to see everything move so much more fluidness makes me question why I continue to use revit in such a crippled state.
I use Revit on a big mac with extra memory on Parallels. The Parallels support has been excellent and the product has never failed me and is more convenient than the native Mac partition. But even on a two-story house project there is a lag of 6 to 8 seconds because of the graphics card. As another poster has said the bottleneck is really the graphics software. Even if Revit started now to recode, it would take at least a year to modify and test it (my guess as a programmer).
At this point I think a professional should give up and purchase a dedicated Windows computer just for Revit. These lags really bog you down once you have doors, windows and some furniture. Throw in the terrain and you have time to make tea!
I don't know if you know about this or not but you can enable basic (Direct X10) hardware graphics acceleration with Parallels for quite decent performance. See this old thread for more information on how to accomplish this.
The difference between doing this and not doing it is really remarkable and it's such a simple thing to do. Also, if you have a recent Mac (8GB RAM or more) and a decent video card (e.g. 1GB VRAM) you should tune your Parallels VM to take advantage of these resources. I'm including screenshots of my settings (the important ones anyway).
Oh, and whatever you do DO NOT run Parallels in anything other than macOS native full screen mode. Anything else will kill your performance.
Oh, and in case you're wondering my new Mac is:
iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017)
4.2 GHz Intel Core i7
24 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
Radeon Pro 580 8192 MB
I usually have a tone of apps open at the same time so I need the RAM, especially if I have a VM running at the same time.
You don't even need the latest iMac. I used to have a 2010 iMac and it was ok for my needs. But it's much nicer with an i7 CPU. You do need lots of RAM and a video card with 1GB of video RAM so that you can assign a big chunk to the VM without degrading the performance of macOS.
As always with these tips, your mileage may vary. If you already have your VM on an external SSD then you might want to seek out a well speced Mac and try it out first before you go and buy a new one.
That's the other thing I forgot to mention. The new iMacs have USB3 ports so my parallels VM runs off an SSD in an external enclosure. I used 3M sticky pads to stick it to the back of my iMac so I don't have to see it 🙂
Sería posible una versión nativa para MacOS basada en la versión de Windows pero implementada en un emulador exclusivo para tal efecto?
Only if you plan on writing the code for this exclusive emulator, if you could figure out how to make it work with Wine or Crossover that would be the closest the native you will get.
Sorry for not replying in Spanish. I can understand but can't write really. Anyway, it's already possible. Many people are running Revit successfully under Parallels Desktop. There are many posts on this topic on this message board and elsewhere on the Internet. Just have a look around. There is even a way to get reasonable hardware acceleration for graphics.
Neither Revit nor AutoCAD for Windows can be operated through Crossover because it is incompatible with Microsoft .NET ... Other widely used programs in Spain, such as Presto Measurements and Budgets, CYPE or HULC Energy Certifications do it without problems. On the other hand, and in the hypothetical case of a native version of Revit for MacOS, it should have the same features and interface as the Windows version, as have other programs such as Illustrator, Photoshop or ArchiCAD.
Anyway, I think Autodesk, no matter how many Mac users we ask for a native version of Revit, will not develop it. If he has not gone all this time, I do not think he will. But what bothers me the most is the lack of a clear answer from Autodesk.
