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Pinned elements should not be moved by the move command without unpinning them first

Pinned elements should not be moved by the move command without unpinning them first

Currently in all Revit versions, anyone can use the Move command, with Disjoin option checked, to move and unpin any pinned model elements silently without any warnings. This does NOT align with Revit Help Documentation which states "when a modeling element is pinned, it cannot be moved. To move or delete it, the element must first be unpinned using the pushpin control."

 

This defect often causes pinned/protected model elements to be unexpectedly moved, unpinned, and potentially deleted. There is an old post from 2021 already talked about this issue. 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/move-command-moves-pinned-elements/m-p/10745...

 

This introduces a big loophole in the project production workflow, and could cause rework and confusion in model submission. It also adds unnecessary challenges to the Digital Project Delivery workflow. 

 

I highly recommend Autodesk Revit team fix this issue asap. 

6 Comments
BenjaminDoty_HKS
Community Visitor

100% agree.  Pinned elements should not be able to be moved.

psanyal64Z5D
Community Visitor

^This, 💯

dbehnerHKS
Explorer

100%

Mike.FORM
Advisor

Interesting, it doesn't allow you to move it with "disjoin" unchecked but because moving with "disjoin" check is creating a copy of the element and deleting the original it seems to not respect the pinned status.

 

They should just have the "disjoin" checkbox be greyed out if the item is pinned.

Ric_Weber
Advisor

I'm all for fixing this because this is definitely a bug in my mind. 

 

But, in the meantime, if you make sure to turn off the Select Pinned Elements when you select all your items (presumably with a selection box), then it should not select those pinned items at all, and thus they won't be moved.    

mhiserZFHXS
Advisor

@Mike.FORM Holy cow I never realized that's how disjoin worked under the hood. That'd be smart if some random person did it for a tool they developed, but how incredibly lazy for a billion dollar company. 

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