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I would like the ability to "SUPER PIN" certain items. A Pin that makes it VERY difficult to modify or delete things - sloped paving, toposurfaces, etc. We are in the habit of pinning everything, but certain things are so critical to the model and connected sheets that accidentally deleting them can create days of work. The difficulty comes because we may have 5 people working on the project, and as soon as everyone has synced the mistake made by one person is propagated to everyone without their ever realizing it.
@Anonymous As people already mentioned: just use the workset / worksharing options - create a workset named SUPERPIN and make it owned by the project administrator. This way nobody else can edit that workset by mistake. And for adding a little nerdy touch to the situation, you could make a backup / separate revit file containing just that workset and link it to your working revit file.
An old proverb saying: "March divided, fight concentrated" might be useful to the situation. Each person could work in a separate file and link it to a central coordination file (the SUPERPIN file).
What good is Pinning an object if another user in the next office can just Unpin and Delete my element? If I PIN an element, I'd expect anyone who tries to move it, delete it, or even change the color of the element, to have to Place a Request with me, the creator of the element, before making ANY changes to, ESPECIALLY deleting, my pinned element. I certainly can't grab someone else's SECTION VIEW and move it, rotate it, or apply a new View Template to it unless I Place a Request..... Cmon, Autodesk....get with the program.
You got me lost here. PIN in Revit is like FREEZE LAYER in Autocad. You freeze/pin things when you have to draw over it, when you need those pinned/frozen objects as an underlay. It is not meant to block other users for editing it. Maybe you can set a password for the file to be editable, but free to open it. Or you could export it to IFC or Autocad 3D.
Maybe I didn't explain this correctly or clearly enough. We work on multi-level buildings in a MEP environment. When I place a sleeve for piping to pass through slabs from one floor to the next, for example, I pin the sleeve so it can't be accidentally erased, moved, deleted, placed on another workset, etc. Creating a WORKSET that I'm the owner of and placing the sleeve on that workset DOES NOT prevent anyone who's working on this job from unpinning the sleeve and deleting it. Copying the sleeve from floor to floor turns the sleeve to an unpinned state, leaving a lot to be desired of the Copy Function. That's another issue I have with Revit. If I copy something, or create similar, or duplicate something, it should copy all parameters from the original. If I create a Section View, which I have set up with a View Template, a Far Clip Offset of 5' 0" and Filters, for example, if I right click the Section View, Create Similar, it creates some obscure Section View that has NONE of the parameters, view template, filters, etc. from the original, forcing me to have to re-apply my desired view template, reset my Far Clip Offset, etc. But I digress. This is just another problem I've encountered with the way the Autodesk Programmers think. Create Similar DOESN'T create anything similar at all when it comes to a Section View. Same thing with Copy Up (Copy to Clipboard, Paste Aligned to Selected Levels) UNPIN'S a PINNED element and removes it from it's original Workset and places it on the Workset I am currently on. Copying a PINNED Element should remain PINNED and remain on the same original Workset, IMO. And someone down the hallway, who's working on the same job in the same model should certainly NOT be able to just unpin said element and move it, delete it, change it's color, etc, unless they request permission from the creator. The same idea already applies to a Section View. You can't take someone else's Section View and move it, rotate it, make view template changes to it, etc. unless you request their permission....
@AnonymousCopying sleeves / MEP holes from floor to floor seems tedious work. Have you tried the shaft command? Shaft is not meant exclusively for elevators. You can use it for MEP conduits and cables as well. A shaft can span as many floors you want. It consists of one single entity, when you move it on one floor , it moves the same amount on all floors it encounters.
If you're seeking for an automatic way of creating these sleeves/holes, you can try some Graitec extensions for Revit. A certain command can automatically create holes in all elements encountered by MEP conduits / pipes / etc. There is certain advantage to such approach, since all those holes are parametrically linked to the MEP elements (they are created by some offset / gap parameter). And such linking works all the way: moving the MEP element will reposition the sleeve automatically too.
P.S. You should consult the structural engineer when positioning those sleeves / holes. A bad positioning might result in structural failure sooner or later. Repostioning a MEP element and its' corresponding sleeve / hole might cause reinforcement clashes and rebar resizing. It is important to inform the structural engineer and the architect about your intent. Everybody should get "on the same page" on every aspect of it.
@ipselute Shafts won't work with our Points System (Trimble) we use in the field. Copying Up a sleeve to multiple floors isn't that difficult or tedious. The Paste Aligned to Selected Levels allows me to copy the same sleeve from the 1st Floor to the Roof and every level in between. Having to go back and re-Pin all of those sleeves, that's what's tedious.
If you are the OWNER of the workset (not just a borrower) and when you Save to Central, do not check User Created Worksets then you will remain the owner of all elements on the workset. To be the owner go to worksets and make that workset editable, then no one can touch your elements unless you change the element to a workset that they can edit.
If pinning all the sleeves is tedious.. right click and select all instances/ entire project, then pin... Done. Maybe more training for your other users so they don't move or delete your sleeves is what you really need.
I understand your request now. Everytime you copy a sleeve to another level you need to rehost each sleeve to each slab for the corresponding level. Maybe Revit doesn't rehost it automatically and it cannot pin it because no host is known / assigned to that respective sleeve. Shafts does not require hosting on each level, and one shaft versus many sleeves means smaller revit model, easier to handle. That's the reason i suggested shaft.
@Anonymous When I save to Central, the User Created Worksets check box is Unchecked and the option is grayed out. It doesn't allow me to check it anyway. I believe our admin who set this project up wanted to make sure that if someone left for a vacation or quit or was terminated, this option would not be available.
It is greyed out because you need to own a workset. Go to worksets and make a workset Editable. Then take a look at the STC dialog box. It will not be greyed out and will allow to add a check or remove a check from it. With no check it remain in your control. If you were to get fired... your BIM manager should be able to relinquish you if he/she knows what they are doing. It shouldn't be a concern. Most teams don't use this practice to check out worksets for other reasons.
OK. Here we go again. I'm working on the 14th Floor/Roof. I placed all the roof drains and PINNED them. Someone came along and UNPINNED my roof drains and now 5 or more have been moved. Inadvertently? On Purpose to suit their piping? I don't know. I don't care. The Roof Drains have been cast in the slab, yet the piping below has not been drawn in for coordination between the other trades. Since the Roof Drains THAT I PINNED have been unpinned and moved, (when I question the other office workers, nobody seems to know anything....they all play stupid)....now the piping that is drawn in below to the newly relocated Roof Drains will not match up to what's actually cast in the slab in the field. Dimensions will not match up with what's actually installed. Guys out in the field will think the CAD Dept doesn't know what the hell they're doing. That's whwould like to have the PIN function require MY PERMISSION to unpin the object. Nuff Said.
@Anonymous: I've been living the same nightmare for more than an year now. HVAC and MEP engineers keep moving, resizing and shifting MEP holes like crazy. I just wish this MEP sleeves to be somehow connected to the MEP routes (pipes, cables, whatever) and to update automatically whenever stupid drains position changes because whatever (stupid) reason. Don't blame structural designers, they have no reason to unpin (and move) MEP sleeves. Besides, i think it's rude to unpin things without asking (things are pinned for a reason, right?). Maybe somebody is not a team player.
Did you guys try to OWN the workset(s) your models elements are on? It looks like that may be your only option since the idea has 0 votes. Feel free to PM me and I will be glad to try help.
Unfortunately the opening , the wall , and the pipe are in the same model. This is when it works the best. For most, the models are split by discipline. When constraining items to a linked model the host model takes precedence. A change then make the link move instead of the opening.
I've seen other CAD Dept workers accidentally unpin entire Arch Models or Structural Models. For example, in a Section View, if you window swipe to select a number of elements to edit, you can accidentally include the entire Structural Model because of a shaft opening, which uses hidden lines and is not visible, but will collectively select the Structural Model. Said person then Unpins all of the elements they just window selected and now we have a loose Structural Model that can be inadvertently moved, deleted, recolored, whatever. I've come across a couple of times where all of a sudden, the Arch grid lines and the Structural grid lines don't match up and come to find out, one or the other model has become UNPINNED. Through a simple Window Select function. Therefor, if I create a model and pin the Arch, Structural, Civil, MEP Revit Models at the beginning of the job, NO ONE should be able to unpin any of those links for whatever reason unless they receive my permission.....
