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Allow more than one sheet to contain the same view
Whenever I want to create an overall plot of my project, and provide a different set of A3 copies for the building site, I have to duplicate all my views and rename them. Why not just a warning that could be ignored? Now it's forced on us.
Regarding this issue: "Do you have an idea how Detail Number and Sheet Number should react to this?"
I don't see how sheet numbers will be affect, please explain.
For references, maybe simplest solution would be to eliminate any callouts/references when something is placed on two sheets. Then you could do a reference callout to make it show what you want.
Regarding this issue: "Do you have an idea how Detail Number and Sheet Number should react to this?"
I don't see how sheet numbers will be affect, please explain.
For references, maybe simplest solution would be to eliminate any callouts/references when something is placed on two sheets. Then you could do a reference callout to make it show what you want.
Then you don't have a callout when someone mistakenly places a used view on another sheet and now require additional checks to make sure all views are properly referenced, increasing redline & review time for all users for a few edge cases. Edge cases are those that require work-arounds, not basic workflows.
A drawing is updated in response to an RFI. The drawing is recropped and issued on a Sketch Titleblock.
Solution:
Allow the same view to be referenced multiple times. Allow unique cropping for each instance. Allow each detail reference, on a per instance basis, to select from the sheet placement addresses it is tied to.
I guess the only other solution is to fully embrace paperless, and to issue full sheets every time there is an update/change.
I don't understand why this idea was archived so soon. I'm sure it would be in the top 20 if that didn't happen.
The fact that so many people voted in such a short time span is a testament that the known workaround (dependent views) is not an adequate solution.
Why not add an option to the view instance properties "allow for multiple placement" or something similar. The default behavior wouldn't change, but once would be able to override it. Offices that don't want to feature could just lock it in their view templates. Other offices (like ours) would welcome this feature.
In terms of how view references should work: we would be ok with Revit just picking the first placed view as the reference. Although not necessary, a bonus feature might be an option so select the "primary" viewport where view references will default to.
The dev team needs to stop ignoring user requests like this! People like us are the front line of folks arguing with the old guard in our organizations who don't want to stop using CAD. And when some the nonsense like this and the workarounds these cause give all the Anti-revit folks more ammo.
The view reference argument is ridiculous. Simply allowing the view reference to select which of the multiple sheets a view is placed on would easily work around this. Defaulting to the first sheet it's placed on would make it so most people would never have to mess with it.
I can see how this works for floorplans only; would not work for Sections, Elevations or callouts due to referencing systems to my mind (what would the section head show for a view on multiple sheets?)
Suggest the dependent views are the best solution OR consider legend views for multiple sheets instead, depending upon the information.
hi @Bramvdouwelant there is some work around you can create view and create many dependence views from it they all have the same data except the callout position & have the same template and scale you can put every view of them in different sheet as you want
for sorry, revit blocking us from some features which we see ordinary and can be done easily be their programmers likely there are workaround like creating dependency views or duplicate views and copy / paste the required data on it
keep on and rise your idea again with more explain & clear examples and it may have some luck
Add the ability to place a View on multiple Sheets.
Sometimes we need to do this and currently we have to duplicate a view to work around it. It has to be a dependent view but Visibility Graphics updates don't affect the dependent views, so there is a lot of repetition and potential for mistakes. The duplicate view also clutters the project browser.
You can keep a warning that the view has already been placed on a sheet.
It is silly that Autodesk can't figure out how to do this, I believe this is a really good idea, and so far I think this is the only BIM software that doesn't allow you to do this. Go and see how others software deal with this in a elegant way.
Looking for a way to put same view on a different sheet brought me here. There is only one thing I can say- "Line is too short" explains everything to me. Thank you all for finding a work around.
This seems like an obvious option to me. Maybe we have many typical details that we need to place on many similar sheets. It's completely insane to duplicate all those detail views for dozens of levels on dozens sheets.
E.G. Typical parapet details, typical nodes reinforcement, typical slab rebar cover for slab and walls, typical slab openings, typical MEP holes, etc
We can't even detach those views from the model. We have to export them to dwg, then import them back into Revit. How stupid is that?
@aeidAEEEF: I am adding such details to the titleblock, then create custom parameter for visibility, then check that visibility for each individual sheet. One giant titleblock, by the way. Very time consuming. I could do it by using Dynamo, but that means even more time wasted on such simple matter. Like Autodesk couldn't care less about customer wishes/needs.
One responder says, "Maybe we have many typical details that we need to place on many similar sheets." Isn't the whole point of a typical detail that you place it ONCE and then reference it many times? Or is paging through the set to the typical details sheet too time-consuming?
@Anonymous : You are right, Bill. The logic dictates that. But sometimes reality can be a little different. In Europe, construction sites management is a bit different. E.g.: Large multi-story building, repetitive task: many reinforced slabs/floors. We need to put the entire slab reinforcement on one single (very large) sheet of paper. Main reinforcement + all the details. Because most workers have basic skills and can't handle multiple sheets for one task . The more sheets you have, the easier is to lose some of them. Putting everything on one sheet is just safer, even if you are repeating the same informations/details.
Just so you guys know, there is a workaround which I am using to solve this: DEPENDENT duplicates.
My workflow is as follow:
1) Use a custom dynamo script to create multiple dependent duplicates, renaming most of them as well
2) Place these dependent views sheets via guide grids (If a standard scope box is applied first, I sometimes use a dynamo script to place to the correct position to match gridline A-1 with my preferred guide grid position).
If you're not Dynamo savvy: just use dependent duplicates and place as needed. I would recommend apply a scope box beforehand to save time. This allows you to use the "same" view on multiple sheets i.e. any updates to the master view will apply to all dependent views. Then finally add a suffix to each dependent view per the sheet number to easily keep track.
