Why can't apply model fill pattern to - cut pattern in material editor

[ivo_galantai]

Hi Guys, 

Is there a way to create a material cut pattern which based on drawing scale? 

I mean - Cut pattern can only be drafting pattern - 
I have batt insulation - see uploaded pic - which has to change with scale - 

I couldn't find any solutions for this - any suggestions?

Also for every different type (thickness) of wall we had to created the batt insulation because the orientation was wrong - in the middle of wall.

Filtering material for cut pattern in a view template maybe for 1:50 plans are not possible because than we have to create 150 filters for 150 different size of walls... 

It would be great if there would be a solution or a nested system family in walls  - where i can set material cut pattern to model based not drafting.

Thanks for any suggestion / help

Cheers 

Ivo

[Laura.Rombaut]

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@scadetMH3VD wrote:

We also put the insulation into our wall types. 

We have a three-tiered approach, but found this to be most efficient for our teams:

1. We set the default scale of the insulation to match our scale for the overall plans and building sections, which often happen to work out to be the same scale for us. We show insulation the most on these so this where we save the most amount of time. 
2. For enlarged plans, like a restroom plan, the walls are often more consistent, so we'll change the walls' background cut pattern in the view's visibility settings to the insulation secondary scale that matches the enlarged plan scale. 
3. For even finer details, where we are probably only showing 1 or 2 walls, we'll turn off the wall background hatch and put in the 2D insulation manually, since that's probably faster. (Insulation is the only wall pattern we put in the background so that way we can still show other wall material cut patterns in the foreground and control that visibility separately.) 

The way this works out for us, we have no more than 5 or 6 insulation hatch patterns, even for very large projects. We also use pyRevit to build our hatches super quick. 

In the meantime, you should vote for this idea here: 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/align-wall-material-cut-pattern-to-wall-layer-boundaries/...

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@scadetMH3VD 

I kind off like this idea.
The only and mayor downside is you can't use a solid underlying color you would normally select for the background pattern...

[kclark5NN7C]

Revit by default doesnt allow model patts in any cut, only drafting and that can be annoying for scale issues. but painting with a material that has the patt in it is a good solution but not if you want it in multiple views then theres more work involved. I feel like there should be a option to do either or, maybe they cannot do it for a caluation or joining issues. More lines to worry about or maybe it would make the file or element to large in size. It feels simple but its most likely a programing problem. 

I was experimenting with wall sweeps and I found that you can add a sweep embeded in the walls profile shape that looks like a insulation patt, now I had to create the profile shape the only drawback is you cannot change the width or its height dynamically, you would have to have wall types that had the width already set and the heights set too,

i.e. Wall at 8' tall x 6" wide, then it would show up in section cuts. If you do it as a wall sweep then you can turn it off in plan. I know this isn't a 100% solution that fits all but can be cool if you want to spend the time to make each wall type suituation or modify it for anytime you have somthing different. I guess over time you would have a collection of wall types and not need to make new walls after awile. I did this with corrugated metal walls and it shows up nicely but only works in the Horizontal theres no way to get the Profile patt to go vertically thats why it has to be a preset height. In the end I used a exterior wall sweep thats not embeded and that way I could get vertical patts too. Techincally its not a patt its modeling it from my profile that looks like the patt. I even loaded it into a curtain panel as well. 

Good luck.