Wall Type/Partition Type Schedule/Legend (typical architectural documentation)

[crullier]

Is anyone calling out or tagging different furring conditions along walls that make up the shell in their wall type legend or schedule as a "wall or partition" type? 

What do I mean?

Here is an example, 

Exterior wall assembly:  Metal Panels - air - Tilt-up panel (8"). and I stop there. I call this WALL TYPE 1.

Then whatever happens into the building beyond the interior side of the tilt-up wall I describe as a different wall type; It is also modeled as a separate wall. We call this a PARTITION.

So essentially in our plans, we are showing a wall with TWO wall type tags. One for the SHELL and one of the INTERIOR.

Why you ask? Because I don't want to create several types of a wall for every variation we may have in the inside of the building. Think GWB on 3/7" Furring Strips, versus GWB on 1 5/8" MTL Channels on another part of the building.

Anyone else doing this? Its a little different, but it keeps up from using FAKE wall tags and having too many wall types for sake of BIMMING.

Any thoughts?

I can post some screenshots tomorrow if anyone still needs a visual.

[constantin.stroescu]

if I understood you well, then it could be possible by doing this:

• create two walls :one for the base part and another for the furring stick together on their faces
• Join the two walls
• Create Assembly of these two walls - name it adequately
• Tag the walls and the Assembly or use KeyNotes fro the walls and the assembly...

I am not sure if this solve your problem...maybe I'm missing something here...

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

We are on the same boat, tagging the interior furring separately from the exterior shell.  It is logical because they typically are done be different trades.

[Keith_Wilkinson]

I think this is a difficult one - using this granular approach will reduce the number of wall types but it gives real headaches when it comes to things like doors, as the OP points out there are also issues with wall Types.

I think this is an area of Revit that needs more development and greater flexibility perhaps by allowing 'sub' types to be defined and then combined into a single wall type as required... if that makes sense.. .

sorry, I don't have any current solutions to add although I do have a cool door family that can adapt to the overall thickness of these kind of walls... 

[ToanDN]

Or the option to set the thickness of some or components inside a wall assembly to an Instance Parameter, for example the Thermal/Air layer.

[crullier]

You have just described our standard modeling procedure. Now I am asking if what seems "logical" to me will make sense to a GC, CM in terms of architectural documentation.

[crullier]

Great, happy to know I am not crazy in wanting to do this.  Has it worked well so far Toan - are you in the US?

[ToanDN]

Yes I am in the US. It seems to work well for us as we create construction documents so that different trades have clear understand of their scope. For example walls versus partitions, exterior fenestration versus interior openings, etc...

[crullier]

do you use different wall types for your shell versus partition and furring?
We are currently using the same graphic, but tag "WT-1" for Walls (shell) and P1, P1.1, for partitions.

[ToanDN]

Yes. Different tag lettering for walls versus partitions. Type schedules/details for walls and partitions are on different sheet sub-sets as well.