Wall end grip drag move - how to enter distance?

[cupax]

Hello.

Coming from Autocad i wonder: Is it possible in Revit, to select a wall, select its grip and drag/extend it for an exact distance? While you hold its grip, to enter the amount it should move in the direction you move the grip?

I know you can enter the exact wall length by clicking on its measure, but this is not very useful.

[cupax]

Hello.

Coming from Autocad i wonder: Is it possible in Revit, to select a wall, select its grip and drag/extend it for an exact distance? While you hold its grip, to enter the amount it should move in the direction you move the grip?

I know you can enter the exact wall length by clicking on its measure, but this is not very useful.

[MostafaElashmawy]

yes sure you can.

drag the end, write the new distance, enter.

[MostafaElashmawy]

yes sure you can.

drag the end, write the new distance, enter.

[cupax]

Hi,

Yes, but you have to enter the new total length.

What about if I want to enter the distance of movement? For ex. I wish to grab the end and move it for 1"?

Is it possible?

[cupax]

Hi,

Yes, but you have to enter the new total length.

What about if I want to enter the distance of movement? For ex. I wish to grab the end and move it for 1"?

Is it possible?

[RDAOU]

@cupax 

It works almost the same...While holding the grip type the distance that you need and then hit ENTER...the wall will adjust to that length in the direction you are holding the grip to (See animated gif below)

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[RDAOU]

@cupax 

It works almost the same...While holding the grip type the distance that you need and then hit ENTER...the wall will adjust to that length in the direction you are holding the grip to (See animated gif below)

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[martijn_pater]

FYI You can also type "=8000+500" and it will add the 500mm there.

[martijn_pater]

FYI You can also type "=8000+500" and it will add the 500mm there.

[cupax]

Maybe I wasn't clear enough:

I just want to enter the distance between the existing grip location and the new one. I don't want to enter the total length of the wall, I just want my wall to be 1" longer without me knowing and entering what the total length is or will be.

[cupax]

Maybe I wasn't clear enough:

I just want to enter the distance between the existing grip location and the new one. I don't want to enter the total length of the wall, I just want my wall to be 1" longer without me knowing and entering what the total length is or will be.

[RDAOU]

@cupax 

When you see it You know it 🙂

When you select the wall Revit displays temp measurements showing the length of the wall => you press hold the grip and type = "the length you saw" + "additional length you desire" !!!!

So again ... It works ALMOST the same.

1. There you are moving the end point of line, in Revit you handling the elements/length (thats whay they are called Shape Handles) there is a point down and a corresponding one up

[RDAOU]

@cupax 

When you see it You know it 🙂

When you select the wall Revit displays temp measurements showing the length of the wall => you press hold the grip and type = "the length you saw" + "additional length you desire" !!!!

So again ... It works ALMOST the same.

1. There you are moving the end point of line, in Revit you handling the elements/length (thats whay they are called Shape Handles) there is a point down and a corresponding one up

[cupax]

Hi,

Thank you for your help, but I can't accept this as a solution but as a workaround.

First - "You see it you know it" doesn't always work. If you are zoomed in to the wall's ending you don't see it's length. You first have to zoom out.

Second - to first copy the (long) seen number and then add the desired addition in a formula is very very non intuitive and time consuming.

It's a pitty, since this thing works very well with for ex. Revit's "move" command but not grip drag.

[cupax]

Hi,

Thank you for your help, but I can't accept this as a solution but as a workaround.

First - "You see it you know it" doesn't always work. If you are zoomed in to the wall's ending you don't see it's length. You first have to zoom out.

Second - to first copy the (long) seen number and then add the desired addition in a formula is very very non intuitive and time consuming.

It's a pitty, since this thing works very well with for ex. Revit's "move" command but not grip drag.

[RDAOU]

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@cupax wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for your help, but I can't accept this as a solution but as a workaround.

First - "You see it you know it" doesn't always work. If you are zoomed in to the wall's ending you don't see it's length. You first have to zoom out.

Second - to first copy the (long) seen number and then add the desired addition in a formula is very very non intuitive and time consuming.

It's a pitty, since this thing works very well with for ex. Revit's "move" command but not grip drag.

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@cupax 

Apologies...your question was if it is possible to extend the wall a certain distance in a certain direction while press/holding its grip. The original queries did not emphasizes on the criteria "Zoomed IN to the extent that nothing much besides the shape handle is visible" !

If you find the formula so unintuitive you can always visit the Revit Ideas forum (Link Below) and post you Intuitive Idea there and hope it gets enough votes. For the time being "workaround" as you called it are your only option 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/idb-p/302

[RDAOU]

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@cupax wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for your help, but I can't accept this as a solution but as a workaround.

First - "You see it you know it" doesn't always work. If you are zoomed in to the wall's ending you don't see it's length. You first have to zoom out.

Second - to first copy the (long) seen number and then add the desired addition in a formula is very very non intuitive and time consuming.

It's a pitty, since this thing works very well with for ex. Revit's "move" command but not grip drag.

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@cupax 

Apologies...your question was if it is possible to extend the wall a certain distance in a certain direction while press/holding its grip. The original queries did not emphasizes on the criteria "Zoomed IN to the extent that nothing much besides the shape handle is visible" !

If you find the formula so unintuitive you can always visit the Revit Ideas forum (Link Below) and post you Intuitive Idea there and hope it gets enough votes. For the time being "workaround" as you called it are your only option 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/idb-p/302

[martijn_pater]

Use tab select the wall end line and move it when zoomed in.

Or you can draw a (temporary) line or reference plane and align to it. Also you can see the wall length in properties under dimensions and remember it if you want to type it in.

[martijn_pater]

Use tab select the wall end line and move it when zoomed in.

Or you can draw a (temporary) line or reference plane and align to it. Also you can see the wall length in properties under dimensions and remember it if you want to type it in.

[RDAOU]

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@martijn_pater wrote:

Use tab select the wall end line and move it when zoomed in.

Or you can draw a (temporary) line or reference plane and align to it. Also you can see the wall length in properties under dimensions and remember it if you want to type it in.

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@martijn_pater 🤣 I am happy with it the way it is … you have to tell @cupax and see if he/she is happy with your workarounds 

[RDAOU]

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@martijn_pater wrote:

Use tab select the wall end line and move it when zoomed in.

Or you can draw a (temporary) line or reference plane and align to it. Also you can see the wall length in properties under dimensions and remember it if you want to type it in.

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@martijn_pater 🤣 I am happy with it the way it is … you have to tell @cupax and see if he/she is happy with your workarounds 

[ToanDN]

Select the wall you want to extend > Create Similar > Draw the new wall from the end of the old wall to the length you want > When done they will merge into one longer wall.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/d262ce95-8678-4cf3-b3de-9bd231a4e91a

[ToanDN]

Select the wall you want to extend > Create Similar > Draw the new wall from the end of the old wall to the length you want > When done they will merge into one longer wall.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/d262ce95-8678-4cf3-b3de-9bd231a4e91a

[bill_gilliss]

So, basically you'd like the equivalent of AutoCAD's STRETCH command. So would I. Here's what I use instead:

Assuming that the wall is constrained, i.e., attached, to another wall at the non-moving end, just move the whole wall the desired distance -- the constrained end will stay where it is and the moving end will move the desired distance. If the wall is at an angle, to maintain the angle select a point on, say, the interior face as the start point and hover the cursor over a point farther along that same face as the second point. Then just type in the desired distance. Voilá.

You can even use a crossing box to select the end of the wall, just like in AutoCAD, so it even feels like STRETCH.

[bill_gilliss]

So, basically you'd like the equivalent of AutoCAD's STRETCH command. So would I. Here's what I use instead:

Assuming that the wall is constrained, i.e., attached, to another wall at the non-moving end, just move the whole wall the desired distance -- the constrained end will stay where it is and the moving end will move the desired distance. If the wall is at an angle, to maintain the angle select a point on, say, the interior face as the start point and hover the cursor over a point farther along that same face as the second point. Then just type in the desired distance. Voilá.

You can even use a crossing box to select the end of the wall, just like in AutoCAD, so it even feels like STRETCH.

[martijn_pater · Accepted solution]

Here's a summary of the above.

[martijn_pater · Accepted solution]

Here's a summary of the above.

[cupax]

Thanks everybody for the effort in this.

Autocads Stretch is not exactly what I ment.

In Autocad you select a line and the end grips appear. Then you click one grip (not drag) and it sticks to the cursor. Then you move the cursor in the desired direction and type the distance that grip should move. Woila. I think this behaviour is simple and intuitive.

It annoys me because Revits MOVE command behaves in that exact way, but grips don't.

[cupax]

Thanks everybody for the effort in this.

Autocads Stretch is not exactly what I ment.

In Autocad you select a line and the end grips appear. Then you click one grip (not drag) and it sticks to the cursor. Then you move the cursor in the desired direction and type the distance that grip should move. Woila. I think this behaviour is simple and intuitive.

It annoys me because Revits MOVE command behaves in that exact way, but grips don't.

[martijn_pater]

Did you check out the above? If you select a wall endline/endpoint it is very much draggable... same as Autocad really. You just have to use move (shortcut MV) command to input values in Revit. Also Toan's solution is very intuitive, you just have to adjust a little to it probably.

[martijn_pater]

Did you check out the above? If you select a wall endline/endpoint it is very much draggable... same as Autocad really. You just have to use move (shortcut MV) command to input values in Revit. Also Toan's solution is very intuitive, you just have to adjust a little to it probably.

[ultimate_player]

This really is a workaround in my opinion because this works well if you have a single wall but i have loads of issues using these techniques while using more "complex" walls using different wall types with doors, openings etc. a lot of stuff moves with if i use the move tool. Beeing zoomed in makes working with temporary dimensions a pain not to mention if you already have actual dimension in your floorplan. For now i just draw a detail line at the point i want do extend my wall to and snap to that with the wall grip. It's tedious but seems like the only reliable option

[ultimate_player]

This really is a workaround in my opinion because this works well if you have a single wall but i have loads of issues using these techniques while using more "complex" walls using different wall types with doors, openings etc. a lot of stuff moves with if i use the move tool. Beeing zoomed in makes working with temporary dimensions a pain not to mention if you already have actual dimension in your floorplan. For now i just draw a detail line at the point i want do extend my wall to and snap to that with the wall grip. It's tedious but seems like the only reliable option