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wall corner wrapping with 2 windows

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Anonymous
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wall corner wrapping with 2 windows

Anonymous
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hello all,

There are 2 walls and 2 windows meeting 90 degree corner. Both walls have Default Wrapping as Do not wrap At Inserts & None At Ends. Both windows have Wall Closure as Both. They don't work like I expected. Please see attached for reference. How can I make layers join like I expected?

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wall corner wrapping with 2 windows

hello all,

There are 2 walls and 2 windows meeting 90 degree corner. Both walls have Default Wrapping as Do not wrap At Inserts & None At Ends. Both windows have Wall Closure as Both. They don't work like I expected. Please see attached for reference. How can I make layers join like I expected?

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Message 2 of 14
ToanDN
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ToanDN
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Set wall joint to miter?

Set wall joint to miter?

Message 3 of 14
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Thank you for your reply, but meter join fixed 50%. No interior wrapping. Pleas see below.

I am playing with several different objects like architectural column, window center offset.

We will see.

 

 

kyjunmia_0-1633871573195.png

 

 

Thank you for your reply, but meter join fixed 50%. No interior wrapping. Pleas see below.

I am playing with several different objects like architectural column, window center offset.

We will see.

 

 

kyjunmia_0-1633871573195.png

 

 

Message 4 of 14
barthbradley
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barthbradley
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Like this?

 

L CORNER MULLION 2.png

Like this?

 

L CORNER MULLION 2.png

Message 5 of 14
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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No because the corner is a concrete column with exterior stucco finish. Please see below. That's screenshot of CAD file that I am trying to re-create with Revit LT to practice.

Instead of two walls meeting at corner, I made a column and put it at the corner. And I ran the walls again the column and disjoined. It gives the result close to what I want on floor plan, but now it looks incorrect in elevation. I am thinking about "cheating" by cleaning up with 2D detailing.

 

kyjunmia_0-1633878742173.png

 

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No because the corner is a concrete column with exterior stucco finish. Please see below. That's screenshot of CAD file that I am trying to re-create with Revit LT to practice.

Instead of two walls meeting at corner, I made a column and put it at the corner. And I ran the walls again the column and disjoined. It gives the result close to what I want on floor plan, but now it looks incorrect in elevation. I am thinking about "cheating" by cleaning up with 2D detailing.

 

kyjunmia_0-1633878742173.png

 

Message 6 of 14
barthbradley
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barthbradley
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Cut Geometry doesn't work for you?

 

Column-CW Corner Condition.png

Cut Geometry doesn't work for you?

 

Column-CW Corner Condition.png

Message 7 of 14
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Wow. That should work. I didn't even know what cut geometry can do. I have a lot more to learn.

Would you please kindly guide me to any article or video that demonstrate what you did there? or please explain to me?

 

First of all, what objects do you have there? architectural column, structural column, walls and window?

or just walls and window?

and what did you cut with what object?

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Wow. That should work. I didn't even know what cut geometry can do. I have a lot more to learn.

Would you please kindly guide me to any article or video that demonstrate what you did there? or please explain to me?

 

First of all, what objects do you have there? architectural column, structural column, walls and window?

or just walls and window?

and what did you cut with what object?

Message 8 of 14
barthbradley
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barthbradley
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Accepted solution

It's pretty simple. Press Cut Geometry and then select the element to be cut followed by the element that is supposed to cut it.  On the Options Bar for Cut Geometry, you can tick "Multiple" to select multiple elements to cut into the target.  In my screenshot, the Column is being cut by multiple Mullions.

 

Note: if you accidently cut in the wrong order, press Uncut Geometry to undo the cut. 

 

 

Displaced Column.png

    

It's pretty simple. Press Cut Geometry and then select the element to be cut followed by the element that is supposed to cut it.  On the Options Bar for Cut Geometry, you can tick "Multiple" to select multiple elements to cut into the target.  In my screenshot, the Column is being cut by multiple Mullions.

 

Note: if you accidently cut in the wrong order, press Uncut Geometry to undo the cut. 

 

 

Displaced Column.png

    

Message 9 of 14
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Thank you. I appreciate the visual and your effort to make that visual.

Thank you. I appreciate the visual and your effort to make that visual.

Message 10 of 14
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Hello again. I have an unexpected problem with columns. The project file is attached. Would you please take a look at 2 problems?

1. 3D looks correct. but not in floor plan.

2. window top and bottom don't get wrapping like left and right?

 

kyjunmia_0-1633911388791.png

 

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Hello again. I have an unexpected problem with columns. The project file is attached. Would you please take a look at 2 problems?

1. 3D looks correct. but not in floor plan.

2. window top and bottom don't get wrapping like left and right?

 

kyjunmia_0-1633911388791.png

 

Message 11 of 14
barthbradley
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barthbradley
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Use the Join Geometry Tool.

 

Join Geometry 10.png

 

 

...but, this won't affect the view in the Second Floor Plan View.  That View is dictated by the View Range.  

 

Join Geometry 10-2.png

 

This is all that View Range captures:

 

Join Geometry 10-3.png

Use the Join Geometry Tool.

 

Join Geometry 10.png

 

 

...but, this won't affect the view in the Second Floor Plan View.  That View is dictated by the View Range.  

 

Join Geometry 10-2.png

 

This is all that View Range captures:

 

Join Geometry 10-3.png

Message 12 of 14
barthbradley
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barthbradley
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Consultant

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Message 13 of 14
ToanDN
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ToanDN
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Consultant
Accepted solution

- model the structural column with wrap

- set wall type to no wrap at end

- disallow join each wall end and align by the end of each wall to a face of column

- place a window in each wall and align end of window to face of column

- join geometry column and walls

 

 

 

- model the structural column with wrap

- set wall type to no wrap at end

- disallow join each wall end and align by the end of each wall to a face of column

- place a window in each wall and align end of window to face of column

- join geometry column and walls

 

 

 

Message 14 of 14
RDAOU
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RDAOU
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You guys had one heck of a busy Sunday!!

 

 

YOUTUBE | BIM | COMPUTATIONAL DESIGN | PARAMETRIC DESIGN | GENERATIVE DESIGN | VISUAL PROGRAMMING
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You guys had one heck of a busy Sunday!!

 

 

YOUTUBE | BIM | COMPUTATIONAL DESIGN | PARAMETRIC DESIGN | GENERATIVE DESIGN | VISUAL PROGRAMMING
If you find this reply helpful kindly hit the LIKE BUTTON and if applicable please ACCEPT AS SOLUTION


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