Unable to unhide element (elements option is grayed out)

[diesellam]

See attached.

After clicking the light bolt button at the bottom of the screen, I'm unable to unhide this element "ramp" after right clicking on it.

"element"  is grayed out, why?  "by filter" is the only option available but there's no filter setup in the file.

[martijn_pater]

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@RobDraw wrote:

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@martijn_pater wrote:

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Really? It can be quite useful... just one of those 'knowing where to look'-things imho.

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Absolutely, yes! By linked view is too restrictive. I need to have control over my views. Relinquishing that control to others is detrimental to my projects. I cannot rely on consultants to give me views the way that I need them to look. There's no way that I'm calling an architect asking them to turn stuff off or move annotation because it doesn't look good in my views and definitely not asking them to create additional views for use in my model.

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By linked view, does not nescessarily mean relinquishing control to others. It is just a view as defined by view settings in a linked file, so if you were to link it as linked file you can set it up anyway you want yourself using this functionality. For instance controlling the view range for the linked file. I guess it depends how you set it up...

[Seychellian]

I couldnt help but notice that the OP also has temporary view properties enabled. Could he possibly be another silly billy like me who is mistaking "Temporary Hide/Isolate' with "Hide in View" and is trying to unhide something that he has temporarily hidden? 🤔

@diesellam  If youre out there, please do let us know if and how you resolved this conundrum.  

[RobDraw]

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@martijn_pater wrote:

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By linked view, does not nescessarily mean relinquishing control to others. It is just a view as defined by view settings in a linked file, so if you were to link it as linked file you can set it up anyway you want yourself using this functionality. For instance controlling the view range for the linked file. I guess it depends how you set it up...

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In the context of this thread it does. Even if I had a need for by linked view, I would have to recreate that view every time I got an update and depending on the project, that could be once a week. Linked models are for backgrounds and have totally different settings from the consultants.

[diesellam]

I can't believe this question I posted more than 2 years ago still remains unresolved.

To answer your question:  No, this problem has never been resolved.  Lots of people posted good suggestions but none of them addressed the specific problem I actually had at that time.  I ended up giving up and moved on because it's not worthy for me to continue to beat the dead horse.

I was hoping it's something simple that I overlooked and I couldn't figure out the solution but that's clearly not the case.   If it takes this long to address something this straight forward and there's not a clear solution, this suggests there could be a bug/flaw in the software.

If somebody has the time who can reproduce this exact same problem and still able to resolve it right away via VIMEO or SCREENCAST, it will be greatly appreciated.

[RobDraw]

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@diesellam wrote:

I can't believe this question I posted more than 2 years ago still remains unresolved.

To answer your question:  No, this problem has never been resolved.  Lots of people posted good suggestions but none of them addressed the specific problem I actually had at that time.  I ended up giving up and moved on because it's not worthy for me to continue to beat the dead horse.

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I can't believe you never posted the model. There are a number of possible solutions and we can only guess at which one might work. You gave up? I thought you might have found your solution. I guess it hasn't been an ongoing issue.

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@diesellam wrote:

I was hoping it's something simple that I overlooked and I couldn't figure out the solution but that's clearly not the case.   If it takes this long to address something this straight forward and there's not a clear solution, this suggests there could be a bug/flaw in the software.

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It is most likely something simple that you overlooked. It's taking so long because you have not provided enough information and by your own admittance, you gave up before it could be resolved. Post the model and your solution will be forthcoming.

[diesellam]

Actually I was trying to upload my model at that time, but the forum wouldn't allow me to upload the model more than certain size.  I tried everything to shrink down the file size and even with zipping it, I still couldn't get file size smaller than the max size allowed.

I tried to look for that file again in my computer and found no success.  Sorry about that.  It's been such a long time ago.

[RobDraw]

Don't you have another model exhibiting the same behavior?

[martijn_pater]

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@RobDraw wrote:

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@martijn_pater wrote:

 I guess it depends how you set it up...

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In the context of this thread it does. Even if I had a need for by linked view, I would have to recreate that view every time I got an update and depending on the project, that could be once a week. Linked models are for backgrounds and have totally different settings from the consultants.

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@RobDraw I have a feeling this got a little bit offtopic... but what I was thinking of in that scenario was to 'disconnect' the consultants model like below with a linked project file which you would then link in the project, so you'll have views you can control yourself. It could be a useful in between step instead of linking the consultants model directly. But I guess it's a little tricky/not always as workable...

indirect linking to control view settings

[RobDraw]

I'm not sure why you keep addressing this with me.

99.9% of the time I do not have a use for "By linked view". End of sentence. Full stop.

[martijn_pater]

@RobDrawI'm not sure either;), but you can't ask a question and then say stop responding:P And my answer would be because it can be a useful setting I think and you were the one dismissing it... if it's not for you that's fine... it's not an absolute truth you know, just trying to expend horizons/possibilities... 

[Seychellian]

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@RobDraw wrote:

I'm not sure why you keep addressing this with me.

99.9% of the time I do not have a use for "By linked view". End of sentence. Full stop.

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oh oh. Grumpy pants is back. Im relieved that im not bearing the wrath this time around. 

[RobDraw]

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@martijn_pater wrote:

@RobDraw but you can't ask a question and then say stop responding

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I didn't ask a question.

[RobDraw]

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@Seychellian wrote:

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@RobDraw wrote:

I'm not sure why you keep addressing this with me.

99.9% of the time I do not have a use for "By linked view". End of sentence. Full stop.

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oh oh. Grumpy pants is back. Im relieved that im not bearing the wrath this time around. 

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Brilliant!

[Seychellian]

🤣 Now thats the spirit!

[martijn_pater]

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@RobDraw wrote:

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I didn't ask a question.

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@RobDraw Fascinating thing, language. This is why I wonder how you would respond when hearing about embedded questions as statements. I'm not sure if you're as interested in the subject as I am though. Possibly you're just as keen on learning as I am and based on your reply I am curious to find out. Let's see if you are. I don't know, but I suspect you might be. I would love to see if you can appreciate this type of pun, which is in its intention only meant as a joke I would like to add. I'm not sure if you can appreciate the humor in that though but ofcourse I hope you will. ...  😉

[RobDraw]

Why are you deflecting? You realize that you have made a mistake and instead of admitting it, you attempt to sway the subject away from your faux pas.

Let me try one more time.

I avoid "by linked view" like the plague.

[martijn_pater]

I'm not sure why you're telling me I made a faux pas and/or am deflecting.

[RobDraw]

I explained why. Your doubt is quite telling.

[martijn_pater]

Based on your premise I didn't ask you a question.

[barthbradley]

This thread reads like a Cage Fight. It's got a little bit of everything. Strikes to the groin, Eye gouging, Biting, Hair-Pulling.  I wonder if this contest will go the distance.  

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