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Sweep Insideout

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Message 1 of 11
Irreb
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Sweep Insideout

Hi all,

does anyone know why in this adaptive family (see picture) the sweep that i made turns inside-out when i insert the family in the model (on a surface with no volume divided by planes)?

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Message 2 of 11
RDAOU
in reply to: Irreb

Hello @Irreb

 

  1. Are you using the the generic pattern based template of the generic adaptive template to model the panel?
  2. can you share the family to have a look what might be wrong?

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Message 3 of 11
FGPerraudin
in reply to: Irreb

Hi Franceso,

 

What might be happening is that the numbering of the points changes clockwise for whatever reason.

Have you tried placing it by hand? (deleting the specific component, and then place it point by pont)

clockwise, and reverse?

 

As sweeps are base on a line with a direction, it MIGHT be of help.

 

Or as  @RDAOU says, share your family so that we can have a look!

 

François



Francois-Gabriel Perraudin
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Message 4 of 11
Irreb
in reply to: FGPerraudin

i put it in point by point, i'll share a simple project with the surface and the family so both of you can try.

 

@RDAOU see also the mass surface, is the same as you read and replied on the other topic.

Message 5 of 11
RDAOU
in reply to: Irreb

@Irreb

 

Just to understand better what you are doing...

  1. Why are you using all those model lines and reference points on the Divided surface?
  2. Is that intended to be the pattern for your curtain system?

 

 

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Message 6 of 11
Irreb
in reply to: RDAOU

yes there you are, i divided the surface using reference planes first, as you can see, in order to use their intersections to put in every cell (adaptive family) we need for the curtain.

That's the only way we found to do this.

the cell you have now is the simplest one we have.

Message 7 of 11
RDAOU
in reply to: Irreb

@Irreb

 

Ok nevermind the Divided mass I will post reply to this on your other post...let me look into ur adaptive panel ... you have made it quite complicated

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Message 8 of 11
Irreb
in reply to: RDAOU

there is a better way? all the other we have are made in the same way 'couse (i forgot in this one) we use the dimension lines with the parameter to see measures on an abacus...the same for the angles (and for them i need to use lìthe reference lines as you see).

Tell me if there are ways better for the next time..

now i need to solve this problem using that family made in that way (i'm sorry, i have thousands of them and i can't replace all of theme)

Message 9 of 11
RDAOU
in reply to: Irreb

@Irreb

 

Well you have to fix something!!! Starting with the divided surface which you modeled in place.

  1. You need to Host the profile on a plane
  2. You need to use divide surface, enable U & V grids, rotate grid to suit the pattern you need
  3. You need to adjust the U & V grid on the Properties palette

You cannot use model lines and points on the surface in order to place adaptive components

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Message 10 of 11
ToanDN
in reply to: Irreb

In addition to what have been said, you need to turn on Node of the surface in order to snap the adaptive points to.

 

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Message 11 of 11
Irreb
in reply to: RDAOU

i tried and everything is okay except a revit limin witch is that less than 40 units is totally impossible for it to manage the sweep. I think is a revit limit couse i tried everything (also modifying the sweep form in the family to suit the reversing)

I tried and everything is fine, except for a Revit limit, which is that less than 40 units is quite impossible to manage the sweep. I think it's a Revit limit 'couse I tried to do a lot of things (even changing the sweep's form in the family to meet the reverse insertion)

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