Stone Cladding System - Rainscreen Cladding

[Anonymous]

Hi all,

I work for a Stone cladding company and we are currently in a transition to Revit to model our stone cladding (rain screen cladding)

How exactly will we proceed given that as a final output we need to produce is a set of 2D elevation drawings, with each stone with a reference number, a cutting list to be sent to the quarry, quantities of supports brackets, fixings, Insulation area, Cavity barrier measure, vapour barrier area.

For the cutting list that we send to the quarry we need to list the stone dimensions, quantites, surface finish, edge finish. In some cases we also have reveals that are glued and pinned to the face stone either mitred, butt jointed or birds mouth.

Is using Revit even a workable option to use and create the information / outputs we require? 

[barthbradley]

At first blush, I'd say sure Revit is capable, but I'm not in your Industry.  But, it sounds like you've already come to that conclusion if your company is currently in a transition to Revit.  

[ToanDN]

Can you show a typical elevation? Approach varies depends on shapes and layout of stones.

[Anonymous]

3D Modelling of the stone cladding is certainly preferable, this would allow us to up date 3D models for co-ordination purposes.

Where Revit is the best software to do it with, well not being a revit user i can't tell.

The guy selling us Revit seems to be convinced, even though no one in our market has done it as yet.

[Anonymous]

In the attachment i have included:

Elevation of current project being done in 2D, the elevation repeats as the elevation is set out on a 3.1m high x 3.0m wide grid. (It has 45 triangular roof slope at various angles for the sake of simplicity, let's ignore them)

All the individual stones are labeled, as are the mock joints, revels depths etc.

I have also included the reveal types we use on various projects and the typical details relating to this project.

The last page in the PDF is a more "typical" elevation.

I have also attached typical cutting lists sent to the quarry to produce the stone, these cutting lists are for the first elevation. Reveal stones are factory glued & pinned, some stones have mock joints, mitred edges, etc.

[Avaris.]

Nice images, I'm sure you can do this in Revit.

-First you need to 3D model all your standard stones in different families and types

This way you can save massive amounts of computer storage, every duplicate of a family will take less space than modeling them separate.

-Cutting lists shouldn't be an issue too. Revit keeps automatically track of the number of stones

I'm not sure if it is really efficient to place the stones one by one. I can imagine you use Dynamo to quickly generate stone layouts based on the surface you have to fill. Short example of a guy which did it with rooftiles.

PS: Dynamo is included in Revit and enables unlimited options regarding parametric design.

[Anonymous]

Hi There,

Thanks for that, to date we have received 2 days "training" on revit, given by our re-seller, the course instructor thinks our best approach would be by modifying curtain wall families, breaking up each elevation into a grid of panels and joints and the placing the individual stones on the elevation.

I think we're trying to run before we can walk, we don't know how to use the basics of revit, create a model from scratch etc.

I agree that we need to create families for all the options of stone finish, edge type, quoin treatment, reveal, soffit etc. but to do all this surely we will need to be more familar with the package?

Dynamo then is an even bigger leap than 2D AutoCAD to Revit!! but it does looks promising.

[Avaris.]

Of course, you could start with placing by hand, just to show you the perspective how it could work later on.

If you are a starter in Revit, modelling the stones is a challenge in itself, good luck!