STAIRS PROBLEM

[basma_salman]

hello,

I am trying to create single step, but it is showing like in img below, it is extending beyond the tread,
I tried to change the connection method, the presentation is not correct

[basma_salman]

guys I'm having problem

the section is correct, but it shows like this in plan view

[MostafaElashmawy]

Weird. Let's check.

[basma_salman]

but nothing is hidden in the plan view

[MostafaElashmawy]

it shows correct in 3D also.

[basma_salman]

yes it is correct in 3d

[martijn_pater]

😄 lol, not done yet.
file --> new family (face based generic ie.)--> model step --> load into project

[basma_salman]

the problem is solved (it shows correctly in all views) when I remove the nosing

[MostafaElashmawy]

Good! But don't you need the nosing?

[basma_salman]

yes I need it I don't know what to do

[RDAOU]

@basma_salman 

All the solutions you marked may be valid BUT not for this case... a 1 step is not a stair … the tool has so many constraints and variables which one may not so easily control...the Stair tool has always been a not so easy to handle and not user friendly tool and honestly you should think about how much time you have spent on this 1 step! 

It may or may not be doable, either way its not worth the time and effort when there is an easy practical way to model what you want..What you need to do is:

1. Either model it as part of the upper slab

2. Or model it as an element In Place or as one of the Generic Model families (line based maybe)

The above two option give you more flexibility in controlling how it look like shape wise, graphics wise in 2D views and finishes wise in 3D when aligning the material surface patterns

[MostafaElashmawy]

I found a very strange solution. Firstly the problem is related to the view range of the plan view. 

I found that the stair will look correct when you set the bottom of the view range of the ground floor to 950mm above the ground level or any higher value.

I'm not sure if that will have another impact on the other elements in the view. But visually, I didn't notice any impact.

[David_Knight]

There comes a point when the out of the box tools wont always work.  This seems to be a perfect example.  It would have taken all of 10 minutes to model a stair with just a few extrusions to solve this problem.

[martijn_pater]

@basma_salman If you're going to use the 'model as family' solution mentioned above, please mark my initial post (#2 ^^ ) as solution (you know, for kudos ^^ )

[basma_salman]

sorry i'm not a fan of using model in place families when it comes to solve a problem, if I was going to use model in place I would not bother u guys or waste ur time and effort trying to provide solutions for my problem.

I realize model in place can solve almost any problem we face in revit, but it is not always the solution.

[barthbradley]

Holy cow! We're up to page 4???  HA! This is going to be one expensive step with all the design time factored in.  

You know @basma_salman, another option would be to do this step as a fully parametric Family.  If you want it categorized under Stairs, you could start building it as an In-Place Model, Group it while inside Model In-Place session and then save the Group to an RFA via "Save As".  Then open the family, finish 'er up and load into Projects.  

Just a thought.   

[basma_salman]

i'm just so frustrated because of all this stairs and steps thingy, I couldn't even have a gd sleep and I just stopped the whole project and just freezed at this "step"🤣

[martijn_pater]

I wasn't (nescessarily) talking about modeling an in-place model, although that's also an option. What I meant was to just model it as a generic model family (work-plane based/face-based/line-based… you choose). You just need three extrusions with some material parameter (structure/thread/riser) and add some dimension parameters so you can control dimensions and you'd have everything you need right there…