Roof / Floor Shape Editing... is there any way to get the relative values back?

[GaryOrrMBI]

Roof / Floor Shape Editing... is there any way to get the relative values back?

I'm not sure why they changed the method of measuring modified points/lines in roof and floor slabs but...

Is there any way to tell Revit that I still want to measure the modified points/lines to measure relative to the original surface instead of the options that were introduced in version 2023?

The new options may be fine for some circumstances (I suppose, but I can't think of any...) but I really need to cut down on my calculator time. With the old "relative" method I just needed to add or subtract the amount of rise or fall that I wanted at a given point and enter that, with these absolute options I have to calc how much I want to add or subtract, then add or subtract that from whatever absolute measurement reference I select plus the difference from that reference to the top of the slab...

It used to be so clean and straight forward...

Has anyone found a way to change it back to being relative to the roof/floor slab?

-G

[barthbradley]

Zero out the Elevation. 

...I'm not following you. Place a point with zero elevation at any spot on the surface and that point's elevation is relative to the surface.  It's not zero.    

[GaryOrrMBI]

When adding a point you get that option, when adding a split line you do not get that option, when editing points and/or split lines already placed you do not get that option.

It isn't very often that a first pass of placing points is so perfect that they never need to be altered, and, as stated, placing split lines does not give you that relative option at all.

I'm sure they created the absolute measurement options in response to some request or other but, like seems to be the case lately, they didn't add to the system, they took away what was working and replaced it with this.

Of course, We can always move the roof down so the top of it is at the base level that it's created on, then modify the points, then move it back up (the points are actually relative to the top surface and they adjust properly) but, with walls (and/or who knows what else) attached to it that's just asking for trouble...

-G

[barthbradley]

Is this what you are talking about?  If so, your wish has been granted. We now have Top Plane. 😉 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/modify-sub-elements-relative-to-elevation-base-roof/idi-p...

[GaryOrrMBI]

Yep, exactly that.
So I added a comment there to beg for it's return to 2023 since that's when they introduced this new "functionality" and took away the previous functionality (and the version that we are using on most of our current projects).