"Elevation override" Parameter to replace Elevation parameter

[danezeq]

Hey.

I have a special case in which i need "Elevation override" Parameter which i created, to replace the regular Elevation parameter in schedules. **Only when Elevation override parameter entered**.

That should be done with a formula on schedule properties window, right?

[barthbradley]

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@danezeq wrote:

@barthbradleyabout the "family inside family" solution:

it opens a lot of new issues to resolve like:

i cannot choose between all my types that i created

@danezeq: Did you not notice the Family Types Parameter named "ST" that I created so you could choose which Nested Families Type to show???  

[danezeq]

Yes. but it doesnt change the type. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kFeG3Zaumk)

i somehow overcame this on another family inside family i created, but then i get another obstacles like they wont schedules etc...

[barthbradley · Accepted solution]

I have no idea what happened, but open the attached RFA.  

For the future: this is how you Label a Nested Family Type to a Family Types Parameter in the Host:

[barthbradley]

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@danezeq wrote:

but then i get another obstacles like they wont schedules etc...

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I have zero issues with Scheduling the nested families.  

What's the next issue? 

[danezeq]

Schedules adds the family types AND the nested families inside them:

i suppose  i should filter them somehow right?

The initial purpose of this nested families solution you suggested was to create a family that reports it's actual elevation to the schedule. But it still doesnt. i bet should turn EL to a shared parameter somehow?

[ToanDN]

I think you started off with the wrong approach. There is no need to override the actual elevation value with a type-in one whatsoever.  Where is your original family?

[danezeq]

Youre right. my approach was just looking for quick work around.

Usually i like fundamental solutions, for the long term.

But sometimes i just need to balance between deep software learning and moving on with the project, While reduce my bullying on you guys 🙂

[barthbradley]

Yes, Filter.  Plus, you need a Shared Parameter to report Elevation. "EL" is the Shared Parameter in my family.

[barthbradley]

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[danezeq]

@barthbradley  - You have  a solution for everything 🙂

It works very well!

btw i thought about it: Why not take all the parameters inside the nested family and share them to the father family, Then i can control all the parameters from the type properties window in the project, without edit family, and then  edit the nested family inside.

That way i ont feel it's a nested family anymoreven we.

i did it with the ST parameter and saved every family type of the nested family to the father family. it works.

still, the family wont get the labels on the tag (i get question marks / empty) but think i'll will have to play with it a bit and find something.

[danezeq]

@ToanDN 

here it is:

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

See attached.

[danezeq]

You did it!

Now, "Elevation from level" parameter has both it's influence on the geometry and the schedule.

While "Elevation" parameter has also influence on the geometry, but not on the schedule, so i'll use it as an offset parameter, when i have signs that are located off-levels (the "special cases" i noted before).

But.. how did you make it without nesting it?

Thanks again! i'm learning from you guys a lot.

[ToanDN]

I am not clear why nesting is necessary or relevant for what you were asking - reporting elevation of the element in project.

[danezeq]

btw, all the family types inside are gone. should i create them one by one? or can i batch copy them?

[ToanDN]

What family types? I didn't add or remove any types from your family? You can either add them to that family, or do what i did to the other family with types still exist.

[danezeq]

these family types.

They all gone in the new fixed family

[barthbradley]

Yeah, where are the 16 Family Types? 

...I think I prefer my family.    

[ToanDN]

You mean these?

[danezeq]

yes.

Now the last file you've uploaded includes all of them, but doesnt include ..your fix!

it's now work as before!