North Arrow Rotation

[tninhPNQGV]

Hello, I have trouble with getting my North arrow to work properly.  Can you help me? I didn't know what I did wrong. 

Thank you,

[barthbradley]

Why don't you just temporarily change the View Orientation to TRUE NORTH and place a  12 o'clock Compass in it. When you toggle the View Orientation back to PROJECT NORTH the Compass will rotate with the View - always pointing to True North. 

[tninhPNQGV]

I don't know how to do what you talked about.  I like to place this North arrow on a sheet instead a view. 

[barthbradley · Accepted solution]

see attached

FWIW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o8wG7x-F3E

[tninhPNQGV]

 

 Thank you giving me the arrow family, but it is not what I need. When I rotate the true north angle. The point I circled in red doesn’t stay at center point. What can I do to  keep that point at center of the circle? 

[tninhPNQGV]

Thank you giving me the arrow family, but it is not what I need. When I rotate the true north angle. The point I circled in red doesn’t stay at center point. What can I do to  keep that point at center of the circle? 

The video completely makes sense to me. 

 

 

[barthbradley · Accepted solution]

Yours won't flex that way.

Again, Best Practice:  

[tninhPNQGV]

Thank you! Can you also show me how to snap the point I circle in red to the middle of the circle, so when I change project true North angle it change with it?

[Simon_Weel]

There's nothing wrong with your arrow family. Revit don't play nice with angular parameters in the Family editor - like you experience - it moves the pivot point. Once loaded in the project, the rotation point won't move if you change the angle.

[tninhPNQGV]

I don't know how it works for you, but when I loaded it in  a project.  This is what happens. I need project north and project true north rotate separately.

[Tom_Kunsman · Accepted solution]

Try this - the filled region was proving a bit difficult to control - but this is close 

[Mike.FORM · Accepted solution]

This is my North Arrow, it has both nested Project North and True North arrow and both can be rotated independently.

How I get around the issue of the point moving when the arrow is rotated by a parameter is I add a circle with an invisible line (dash line in image) that encompasses the entire arrow with the center of the circle where I want my rotation to happen.

Revit always likes to rotate families at their defacto centroid so adding a circle forces the center to where I want it and thus removing the need to lock and constrain with a bunch ref lines and other things.

[barthbradley]

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@tninhPNQGV wrote:

Thank you! Can you also show me how to snap the point I circle in red to the middle of the circle, so when I change project true North angle it change with it?

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The Text won't flex.  The rest of the Elements in your Family flex fine and dandy in the Project. Did you try? Delete the Text and try again.  Let us know how it goes.  

[tninhPNQGV · Accepted solution]

Thank you everyone for helping me!  I finally got it figured out.  I created a new generic annotation family and use other nested family in it. The insertion point is in the middle.  It's the same as what I had before, but for some reason when I created the new generic annotation family, it works fine.  @barthbradley @Simon_Weel @Mike.FORM @Tom_Kunsman