Metric and Imperial Scale is Showing Unintentionally

[Anonymous]

Here's one I've never seen. I have two elevations on one page in an imperial project, on one sheet. One Title Bubble reads, 1/8" = 1'0" (correct) and the other one reads 1 : 96

I want them both to say 1/8" = 1'0", they are both using the same Viewport Type, same View Template that forces the View Scale to 1/8" = 1'0". I've done everything, changed the Title Bubble Family, copied the View, changed the Sheets, I've even changed the Scale and the incorrect one ALWAYS reads 1 : 96. I don't even understand how I would force it to read the wrong scale like that, but it is.

Any ideas would be great, or is this just a glitch? I can make a completely new view and it shows 1/8" = 1'0".

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Here's one I've never seen. I have two elevations on one page in an imperial project, on one sheet. One Title Bubble reads, 1/8" = 1'0" (correct) and the other one reads 1 : 96

I want them both to say 1/8" = 1'0", they are both using the same Viewport Type, same View Template that forces the View Scale to 1/8" = 1'0". I've done everything, changed the Title Bubble Family, copied the View, changed the Sheets, I've even changed the Scale and the incorrect one ALWAYS reads 1 : 96. I don't even understand how I would force it to read the wrong scale like that, but it is.

Any ideas would be great, or is this just a glitch? I can make a completely new view and it shows 1/8" = 1'0".

Thanks!

[barthbradley]

Sounds like different TYPES to me.  

[barthbradley]

Sounds like different TYPES to me.  

[Anonymous]

Same Family, Type, Title, it's all the same.

[Anonymous]

Same Family, Type, Title, it's all the same.

[barthbradley]

View Title Family?  

Post the RFA.  

[barthbradley]

View Title Family?  

Post the RFA.  

[Anonymous]

There is just the one Family, so if you edit type, you get the same RLA_Title family. Same RLA_Title Bubble in that family. And same View Scale Label in the Title Bubble Family.

[Anonymous]

There is just the one Family, so if you edit type, you get the same RLA_Title family. Same RLA_Title Bubble in that family. And same View Scale Label in the Title Bubble Family.

[barthbradley]

Only one View Title Family in the Project??? Right-click on the family in the Project Browser and select Type Properties.  Anything showing?  Maybe some check boxes? 

[barthbradley]

Only one View Title Family in the Project??? Right-click on the family in the Project Browser and select Type Properties.  Anything showing?  Maybe some check boxes? 

[Anonymous]

I posted a screenshot of the Viewport Family Properties above, the Title Family only has a check box to turn on or off the scale, if I click it off, they turn off throughout the project.

[Anonymous]

I posted a screenshot of the Viewport Family Properties above, the Title Family only has a check box to turn on or off the scale, if I click it off, they turn off throughout the project.

[barthbradley]

You're misunderstanding me. I'm talking about the View Title Family; the one that is assigned next to the "Title" Parameter in your screenshot.  Sounds like you have others in you Project Browser.  Expand the "Title" drop-down box. Are there more to pick from? 

[barthbradley]

You're misunderstanding me. I'm talking about the View Title Family; the one that is assigned next to the "Title" Parameter in your screenshot.  Sounds like you have others in you Project Browser.  Expand the "Title" drop-down box. Are there more to pick from? 

[Anonymous]

There is an RLA_Title Bubble, and an RLA_Title Bubble - No Scale

It is just the check box here.

[Anonymous]

There is an RLA_Title Bubble, and an RLA_Title Bubble - No Scale

It is just the check box here.

[barthbradley]

Well then, there you have it. Mystery solved. No?  

[barthbradley]

Well then, there you have it. Mystery solved. No?  

[joe_keogh]

Hi @Anonymous 

If I am understanding you correctly, you want the scale to be imperial, but the length and dimensions to be metric.  Is that right?

This is not possible, the Units of the project determine the scale, because Imperial scale has no relevance to Metric Dimensions.  if you want imperial Scale, change the length Units to Imperial.

[joe_keogh]

Hi @Anonymous 

If I am understanding you correctly, you want the scale to be imperial, but the length and dimensions to be metric.  Is that right?

This is not possible, the Units of the project determine the scale, because Imperial scale has no relevance to Metric Dimensions.  if you want imperial Scale, change the length Units to Imperial.

[barthbradley]

Ha! You read it completely differently than I did.  Maybe it's time for me to get new eyeglasses. I read 2 View Titles on the same sheet, one reading the correct View Scale (e.g. 1/8"=1'-0") and the other ALWAYS reading 96:1 (sounds like an annotation, not label).  

[barthbradley]

Ha! You read it completely differently than I did.  Maybe it's time for me to get new eyeglasses. I read 2 View Titles on the same sheet, one reading the correct View Scale (e.g. 1/8"=1'-0") and the other ALWAYS reading 96:1 (sounds like an annotation, not label).  

[RobDraw]

This is not a metric vs. imperial thing. 1/8" = 1'-0" and 1:96 are the same scale.

Can you post the model with the offending view so that we can determine what the issue is?

If not, here is a solution. Create a new view to see if the issue persists. If the issue goes away, copy/paste any annotation objects into the new one.

[RobDraw]

This is not a metric vs. imperial thing. 1/8" = 1'-0" and 1:96 are the same scale.

Can you post the model with the offending view so that we can determine what the issue is?

If not, here is a solution. Create a new view to see if the issue persists. If the issue goes away, copy/paste any annotation objects into the new one.

[Anonymous]

So if I duplicate the view, it still reads 1 : 96, so I'd have to make a completely new one. The problem is that there are several elevations that are showing this way. I just don't quite know why.

I'll attach an example of the sheet with the bad scale on the left, and what I want on the right. Unfortunately I can't attach the full file.

[Anonymous]

So if I duplicate the view, it still reads 1 : 96, so I'd have to make a completely new one. The problem is that there are several elevations that are showing this way. I just don't quite know why.

I'll attach an example of the sheet with the bad scale on the left, and what I want on the right. Unfortunately I can't attach the full file.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately no, changing that just turns on or off the Scale completely, doesn't turn it into the correct scale.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately no, changing that just turns on or off the Scale completely, doesn't turn it into the correct scale.

[RobDraw]

---

@Anonymous wrote:

So if I duplicate the view, it still reads 1 : 96, so I'd have to make a completely new one.

---

Of course, that's why I didn't say duplicate.

---

@Anonymous wrote:

I'll attach an example of the sheet with the bad scale on the left, and what I want on the right. 

---

That just shows what you have already explained.

---

@Anonymous wrote:

Unfortunately I can't attach the full file.

---

Don't need the full file, just one with a view showing the wrong scale. 

[RobDraw]

---

@Anonymous wrote:

So if I duplicate the view, it still reads 1 : 96, so I'd have to make a completely new one.

---

Of course, that's why I didn't say duplicate.

---

@Anonymous wrote:

I'll attach an example of the sheet with the bad scale on the left, and what I want on the right. 

---

That just shows what you have already explained.

---

@Anonymous wrote:

Unfortunately I can't attach the full file.

---

Don't need the full file, just one with a view showing the wrong scale. 

[Anonymous]

Ah, yeah, I was just saying it because I had said in the first post that making a new view creates a view with the correct scale and I was asking if anyone knew why this was happening or if there was a solution instead of remaking the views.

Also just explaining because other people seem to have misunderstood what the issue was. 

I've attached a version of the file with a few of the broken views.

[Anonymous]

Ah, yeah, I was just saying it because I had said in the first post that making a new view creates a view with the correct scale and I was asking if anyone knew why this was happening or if there was a solution instead of remaking the views.

Also just explaining because other people seem to have misunderstood what the issue was. 

I've attached a version of the file with a few of the broken views.

[RobDraw · Accepted solution]

I changed the scale to 1/8" and it displayed correctly.

Here is the cause:

Here is how to fix it without changing the scale:

I know that it doesn't look right showing the 1" = 8'-0" but it changes to 1/8" = 1'-0" when you hit okay.

[RobDraw · Accepted solution]

I changed the scale to 1/8" and it displayed correctly.

Here is the cause:

Here is how to fix it without changing the scale:

I know that it doesn't look right showing the 1" = 8'-0" but it changes to 1/8" = 1'-0" when you hit okay.

[Anonymous]

That worked great! Thanks

[Anonymous]

That worked great! Thanks