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leader line origin from tag

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Anonymous
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leader line origin from tag

Is there a way to control the origin of a leader line from a tag. We have a
room tag that contains different fields used depending on the view ( finish
info, rcp info etc.). The problem is that when we pull a room name out of
the room the leader line seems to start at a point that might be the center
of all the values. If the values aren't displayed, it looks like the leader
is coming from nowhere. Can I define in the tag where I want the leader
line to start from?
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Message 2 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

It will start at the ref. planes in the family.
I recommend not using one family with different visibility settings. But
separate families. This way you can move the labels up and down in relation
to the ref. planes in each to get the look you are after.

"Nancy" wrote in message
news:5667578@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is there a way to control the origin of a leader line from a tag. We have a
room tag that contains different fields used depending on the view ( finish
info, rcp info etc.). The problem is that when we pull a room name out of
the room the leader line seems to start at a point that might be the center
of all the values. If the values aren't displayed, it looks like the leader
is coming from nowhere. Can I define in the tag where I want the leader
line to start from?
Message 3 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

That doesn't seem correct with my experimentation. I made sure that the
room name started at the intersection of the reference planes. When I move
the room tag out of the room it moves the leader line to the center of the
overall side of the tag that is closest to the room. I want it to always
start from the beginning of the room name as illustrated in the image as the
hidden lines. Our drawings are going out in 2 weeks, so I NEED to get this
solved!

"Aaron Rumple" wrote in message
news:5667678@discussion.autodesk.com...
It will start at the ref. planes in the family.
I recommend not using one family with different visibility settings. But
separate families. This way you can move the labels up and down in relation
to the ref. planes in each to get the look you are after.

"Nancy" wrote in message
news:5667578@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is there a way to control the origin of a leader line from a tag. We have a
room tag that contains different fields used depending on the view ( finish
info, rcp info etc.). The problem is that when we pull a room name out of
the room the leader line seems to start at a point that might be the center
of all the values. If the values aren't displayed, it looks like the leader
is coming from nowhere. Can I define in the tag where I want the leader
line to start from?
Message 4 of 15
tim102289
in reply to: Anonymous

I know this post is really old but did you ever find a solution?  I am finding that the leaders just go to the middle of the contents of the tag, regardless of visibility.

Tim Smith
IT Manager, Mechanical Engineer  |  Motz Engineering

“There is nothing more expensive than hiring cheap engineers.”
Experienced in Revit MEP/AutoCAD/Sketchup | Autodesk BPA Certificate
Message 5 of 15
ToanDN
in reply to: tim102289

Instead of stacking multiple labels, use one label with multiple parameters, and break them so that they will stay in different lines.
Message 6 of 15
tim102289
in reply to: ToanDN

But is there a way to get the leader to go to the center of the room number box like the attached?

Tim Smith
IT Manager, Mechanical Engineer  |  Motz Engineering

“There is nothing more expensive than hiring cheap engineers.”
Experienced in Revit MEP/AutoCAD/Sketchup | Autodesk BPA Certificate
Message 7 of 15
ToanDN
in reply to: tim102289

Only when Room name is short, so short that the text remain in one line and not wider than the width of the box.  To top of that, it only works when the leader is to the left, right, or top.  Does not work for any other scenario, unless you develop different families for different conditions, which sounds ridiculous.  So, I would have to say the answer is No.

 

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Message 8 of 15

Adding for future searchers.

 

Working with Revit 2018, the workaround seems to be adding invisible lines to trick the leader into the proper position.

 

Message 9 of 15
geraldr
in reply to: Anonymous

Any solution yet to this? Even REVIT 2022 still behaves this way.

Message 10 of 15
RSomppi
in reply to: geraldr

Any solution is going to be totally reliant on the contents of the tag, your desired output and justification settings.

Message 11 of 15
geraldr
in reply to: Anonymous

The leader appears to follow the text rather than the actual tag box (or triangle) in the case of our Revision Cloud tag.

 

Message 12 of 15
RSomppi
in reply to: geraldr

That's a rather limited test. Try playing with more complex family with multiple types and visibility parameters.

Message 13 of 15

This is unfortunately the trick. Use invisible lines to outline the exact size of the tag you want. Revit will consider the invisible lines the extents of the tag and thus snap the leader origin to the center of them. So ensure wherever you want your leader to snap to is at the center of the invisible lines. Reference planes have no relation to leader line origins.

It is incredible these types of workarounds are necessary at this point for out of the box quality-of-life improvements.

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Message 14 of 15

Quality of life? Isn’t that a bit extreme?

 

BTW, your solution was already suggested. 

Message 15 of 15

I'm confirming the solution that works in this thread amongst the many suggested over years of replies, for future users trying to resolve this.

"Quality-of-life improvements" is common terminology for software features that don't significantly redefine the product, but simply provide general ease of use for the user's day-to-day experience.

Thanks for the reply!

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