Layer wrapping at the bottom of the wall

Layer wrapping at the bottom of the wall

acastana06
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Layer wrapping at the bottom of the wall

acastana06
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Dear All,

 

I am trying to get the condition in the picture below. Basically I want the non-core layers to wrap around the bottom of the concrete core. This is to illustrate how the thermal insulation needs to "surround" the core.

 

Condition i want to model.PNG

 

I am able to model the condition in the "Edit Assembly" window, but when I click OK, I get the errors in the picture.

 

Error I get.PNG

 

Any idea what I am doing wrong?

 

Is there maybe another way that is the standard approach for this modeling task? Maybe by adding some sweeps at the bottom of the wall? I will later need to transform them into parts, and count (in schedule) the needed amount of thermal insulation pieces.

 

Many thanks in advance,

Andrei

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ahjorn
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  1. Your finish layer in line 9 should be "Finish 1 [4]" and not "Finish 2 [5]"
  2. All layers after Core Boundries should be given a minimum thickness. They shouldn't be zero.
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Corsten.Au
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yes.. you can't Wrap something with " Zero " Thickness.

and pay attention to Layer number and hierarchy..

 

1. Structure

2. Substrate

3. Thermal / Air Layer

4. Finish

5. Membrane Layer.

 

CorstenAu_0-1625454607806.png

 

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RDAOU
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@acastana06 

 

Neither the Layer Thickness (which will basically be variable) nor the order/hierarchy of Layer Function  are relevant in this case... The easiest way to wrap layers around the bottom and/or of a wall works as follows:

  • All layers need to be in the CORE
  • Use 1 layer for each material - ie: Do not duplicate layers on both sides of the 250mm Cast in Situ Concrete (Otherwise you will end up with the 0 value layers)

Method is as follows:

  1. Increase Thickness of Index Layer 5 (Cast in situ Concrete) to be equal to 250mm + Thickness Layer 1+2+3
  2. Delete Index Layers 7, 8 and 9
  3. Bring Index Layers 1, 2 and 3 into the core
  4. Place Horizontal Splits
  5. Split the Cast in Situ Concrete Layer Vertically
  6. Merge Layers (See GIFF below)

 

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acastana06
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Wow RDAOU!! thank you for taking the time to offer this detailed tutorial. This obviously works. As soon as I get a chance to try it in my model, I will report back and accept your solution.

 

Once again, many thanks for taking the time. Much appreciated.

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brossettiSUR7J
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Very cool trick! I just used it to create a suspended wall type for ceiling transitions. Thanks!