Imported components do not show if Revit file is linked to a larger model

Imported components do not show if Revit file is linked to a larger model

NicoLB8NT
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Imported components do not show if Revit file is linked to a larger model

NicoLB8NT
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Normally I import a sketchup model into Revit and explode to form my Revit model.  Using multiple Revit models linked together to form a large model, the main model for comunications.  But I have hit a snag where my linked models do not show in my main model, instead they are hidden and I have to use "VG" -> "Revit Links" -> "By Linked View" to show the link in that specific view of my model. 

Is there any way to fix this?  So that it acts like a normal Revit model?

My team is struggling to see my models as well, if they link my main model there is no way to "unhide" the missing Revit links.  I have noticed it does happen with imported DWG files too.

 

Thanks in advance

 

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joaquim.moral
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Hi @NicoLB8NT
Welcome to the Autodesk Community - I moved your post to the Revit boards to win more visibility.

 

I hope the community gives you an answer soon. In the meantime, can you tell us which version you are using?
Can you upload the file or a screenshot so the community members can see it and help you better?

Thanks!


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RSomppi
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If you have to use "By Linked View", it may indicate that the objects in the model are annotation type elements. There are a number of other possibilities. It would be helpful if you could post both the models.

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TripleM-Dev.net
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Could be in the Host model in that view the imported category is turned off.

 

VG > Imported Categories >

I don't know what happens if you explode a sketchup model, I think it is like a dwg, so a imported category or even maybe the "Import in Families"

 

- Michel

 

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NicoLB8NT
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Good day 

As far as I can make out it is not importing as an internal model and therefore not showing further down the line.  At the moment I drew a test cube in sketchup and tried importing that into Revit the same way.  The result is the same, the cube imports into Revit Model 1 but when linked in Revit Model 2 no cube is visible.  I am able to make it visible, but when the Revit Model 2 is used further the cube is gone.  When I use "model in place" and import the cube there it works perfectly, but the next problem is this method crashes Revit when I move to bigger models (which I need to import). 

I have a method that works, which is exporting to DWG and then importing into Revit.  This method does not hold the materials that I assign and everything appears grey, which makes viewing with other models diffcult.  

 

The skp. file is not supported here, but is seems the problem does not lie with the file but with the import method.  It you can try to import a file from 3D warehouse it will most likely behave the same.

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NicoLB8NT
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My best guess is the skp. file is not importing to the native Revit file and therefore not being passed further than Revit Model 1.  If I import the Sketchup model into the first Revit Model I am able to manipulate everything, the transfer to Revit is good and clean.  My problem is with Revit Model 2 where I need to import Revit Model 1, there is where my models are hidden.  When I then use Revit Model 2 for coordination with the team, the imported models are completely missing.

 

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RSomppi
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I would try to simplify your workflow and focus on doing more in Revit. The combination of the complexity of nested models and the importing of exported objects may be introducing unexpected errors due to translation.

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NicoLB8NT
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Modeling in Revit is not for me, we use Revit only for communication purposes.  As the project evolves we will also import DWG files directly from the draughtsman into Revit.  I need to be able to import all my models and furthermore be able to share these models for overlay links in other disciplines. 

This issue presist if the model is simple or complex.

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RSomppi
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I stand by my comment. The nature of a project does not necessitate workflows that can cause errors or situations that are too complex.

 

Any time you are importing, you have the possibility of introducing errors. Those errors can compound as they are linked to other models. Add in nesting and you have the possibility of adding in even more errors.

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NicoLB8NT
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I understand that errors might be present, but the modeling I am doing just can't be done in Revit.  I'm busy with mechanical design of equipment that needs be placed within a building.  To model in Revit will be extremely frustrating and time consuming in my case.  I also need to coordinate with manufacturers and import their models, to redraw these models will waste time.  The only way for me is to import into Revit and not model in Revit.  

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RSomppi
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@NicoLB8NT wrote:

to redraw these models will waste time.  The only way for me is to import into Revit and not model in Revit.  


I find this hard to believe but i don't have all the details. Are you saying this is due to a lack of knowledge or you think these things cannot be done in Revit? If it's a waste of time to model them and solve the problem permanently, then it is also a waste of time trying to workaround issues caused by importing and linking issues having to do with imported objects, isn't it?

 

I don't think it's a waste of time to do what Revit wants.

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RDAOU
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@NicoLB8NT 

 

Did you try exporting the SKP to IFC  using JL SketchUp to IFC 4 extension or the IFC Manager...then the IFC into Revit??

 

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RLY_15
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@NicoLB8NT wrote:

I'm busy with mechanical design of equipment that needs be placed within a building.

 


I want to make sure I understand the structure of the linked models (this comment raises a suspicion)

 

You have a main model that is linking in many sketchup-extracted mini models.

Is this mechanical design being done in the main model, or are you linking the main model into a separate mechanical model file?

 

Does the visibility issue pertain to working within the MAIN model, or trade models linking in the main?

 

https://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2025/ENU/?guid=GUID-F8929030-3D77-4F7B-A01F-3C88C600466E

Review Overlay vs Attachment, I suspect this is the problem (by default files are linked as Overlay)

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