I'm having a problem with newly added Toposolid revit.

I'm having a problem with newly added Toposolid revit.

Luis_eduardo201
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I'm having a problem with newly added Toposolid revit.

Luis_eduardo201
Explorer
Explorer

I'm having a problem with newly added Toposolid revit. The topography has triangles that do not match the topography of the dwg. I have attached the topography in case anyone wants to test it.

 

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Message 2 of 27

barthbradley
Consultant
Consultant

What about Floors from the Polylines?  Kind of like chipboard modeling. 😉

 

Floor from PLines1.png

Floor from PLines 2.png

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Message 3 of 27

barthbradley
Consultant
Consultant

Toposolid from Topography from Toposurface.png

 

2023 Toposurface.png

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Message 4 of 27

u_pekli
Contributor
Contributor

You're joking right ...

 

That's a major issue from Revit 2024 ! toposolid doesn't match de 3D DWG !!!

 

I've lost half day, and still no solution.

 

 

Message 5 of 27

jgeorgiadesPF85E
Community Visitor
Community Visitor

I have similar problem, when trying to import the surface created in Civil 3d to Revit.
Solution that is provided is to export the surface directly from Civil3d to Bim360 and insert it into Revit. However, when I insert the toposolid, there is an error saying "Slab Shape Edit failed." and this removes all levels of the surface and gives me just the extents all in one level.
Does anyone know a solution for this?

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Message 6 of 27

Allan-Wise
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

There is something seriously wrong with the new toposolid tool. In revit 2022 it worked perfectly many times with the old toposurface. Toposolid is not creating an accurate surfaces. Not even close. 
I have a shared surface from Civil 3d in Autodesk docs. 

Message 7 of 27

Allan-Wise
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Autodesk have published this article too. This is a serious issue in Revit 2024. I just banned starting new projects in Revit 2024 in our company till this is resolved:

 

https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Inaccurate-toposol...

Message 8 of 27

snoyola
Advocate
Advocate

In my youtube channel, I have posted some videos analyzing the flow between revit and civil, in revit 2024 the proper flow is to use the civil 3D project as a reference, because the revit TIN algorithm is different from the Civil TIN algorithm. Revit re-generates the surface, and that is rework!

 

 

Simon Noyola

Message 9 of 27

ar00302
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Send me the dwg triangles and I will make an exact toposolid for you. I will use rhino inside for this.

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Message 10 of 27

snoyola
Advocate
Advocate

@ar00302 

 

What you mean is that with Rinho, it takes the Civil 3D surface and leaves it identical to Civil 3D, but in Revit?

 

simon Noyola

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Message 11 of 27

ar00302
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Enthusiast

Yes I  will add it exact the same as produced by civil 3d using grasshopper rhino inside. Probably you can do this with Dynamo but I work with grasshopper 

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Message 12 of 27

Allan-Wise
Enthusiast
Enthusiast
Can we please get Revit updated to do surfaces properly. It doesn't even
have grading tools to make batters for example. You always have to go to
another program to create the surface correctly. The new Toposolid doesn't
even work correctly for Civil 3D Autodesk Docs links anymore. We have to go
back to an old version of Revit, create the Toposurface, then upgrade this
model and copy and paste this surface into our Revit 2024 project.
Message 13 of 27

u_pekli
Contributor
Contributor

Exactly... can't beleive they changed something working.

 

How do you create a modified surface if you import from old Revit ? ... you need to recreate manually a surface in 2024 ?

 

 

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Message 14 of 27

doug_cummings
Autodesk
Autodesk

TopoSolids in 2024 have a 10,000 point threshold before they are automatically simplified (points removed) to stay under that number. 2023 and below Toposurfaces did not have this limit.  I would verify the number sin points in C3D surface to see if this is the issue for your surface.

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Message 15 of 27

Allan-Wise
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

I was using a TIN surface in Civil 3D. 

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Message 16 of 27

janeEYBNR
Participant
Participant

How do you do this efficiently?

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Message 17 of 27

donker.bim
Explorer
Explorer

In Revit 2025, the Problem is still exactly the same.

Toposolids are not usable for us, when the surface is not accurate.

Message 18 of 27

janeEYBNR
Participant
Participant

How do you do the chipboard model in Revit 2024 efficiently?

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Message 19 of 27

froilanallan
Explorer
Explorer

froilanallan_0-1715915279372.png

this is how I do landscape in Revit 2022 using toposurface.

 

froilanallan_2-1715915463033.png

Now I am back to stone age using revit 2024 toposolid. My boss wants to fire me out. Plaese bring back toposurface AUTODESK!

 

Message 20 of 27

lizUU72Y
Participant
Participant

Autodesk, there are so many other issues that you could be "improving", such as navigation within the camera tool interface. This is absurd. Why change what people liked.